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27.04.2014 - 22:26
Can we discuss the fact that with generals you can become sorta powerful?
What about to those who don't have generals?

Let's look at one upgrade. The first seems suitable.

General: defence - 45 sp (50 sp) Your General adds +1 defence to all units in the stack.

Now with that upgrade lets say I'm PD and I have a stack of 10 Infantry.

10x6= 60 Def
(PD)10x7= 70 Def
(GEN+PD)10x8= 80 Def

That's just one upgrade! There's way more!
What will I do if my cap is being rushed by someone with a general and I don't have reinforcements? I'm simply dead.

I also want to discuss the fact that with generals you can have farther and bigger expansion at first turn than those who don't have generals. I'm not complaining here, I'm just trying to point out the fact that generals make the game unbalanced. Now if you tell me to kill the general that is valid and I can do that but the main point here is what about the other things? Expansion can have a huge impact on the game you are in. Faster and better expansion = More units and more money. So what I would want is that either they make a game option to have no generals or that like in old aw we all have generals.
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27.04.2014 - 22:42
I used to play without general. Trust me. It doesn't make big difference. You can still win a lot duels without gen. It does matter sometimes, for example in 3k, 5k or rushing tho. Yet, player pay for generals so you must give them some slight advantages.
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27.04.2014 - 22:56
Ecrit par Guest, 27.04.2014 at 22:41

You could play 10 turn mayhem!

Generals everywhere!!!!!!


Holy shit. Looks like the map got deleted though. I can't find it. xD
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28.04.2014 - 00:46
Black Shark
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Maybe have some general upgrades for paying users? The Admins really need money, they still have jobs since AW can't support them.

IMO Generals should be preminium only until the admins get enough revenue from this game.
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28.04.2014 - 04:15
It's not anyones problem some people can't afford premium or something, sorry too bad, the world is a tough place kiddo.
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28.04.2014 - 06:07
title: This implies something, like saying, what about those who don't have a BMW from their parents on their 18th birthday? BAN BMW or give one to everyone!

OP is retarded.
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28.04.2014 - 09:01
Ecrit par Guest, 27.04.2014 at 23:07

Ecrit par Skall, 27.04.2014 at 22:56

Ecrit par Guest, 27.04.2014 at 22:41

You could play 10 turn mayhem!

Generals everywhere!!!!!!


Holy shit. Looks like the map got deleted though. I can't find it. xD


Yeah it was removed because farming.

I agree with you though and a lot of people have said it before. Generals should go back to begin free for everyone. :/

If they give them for free admins wont take money.That means they wont care for game that means the game will was being hacked and no one cared.AW is a bussness.All bussness are made for money.
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28.04.2014 - 11:07
Don't be a poorfag then. General best thing ever.
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28.04.2014 - 11:13
Ecrit par bullet86, 28.04.2014 at 04:15

It's not anyones problem some people can't afford premium or something, sorry too bad, the world is a tough place kiddo.



Rocky reference and therefore, I deem this post to be the greatest post that has ever been made on an AW forum.

As for the topic, people pay for generals, yet generals require upgrades to be valuable at all. SP spent on generals cannot be allocated elsewhere, and generals only effect a single stack, not the entire playing field. Suggesting they are OP is far from the truth IMO. And if you disagree, but premium. If you cannot afford premium, then play some big maps, get some Protocoin drops and buy yourself a subscription.
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28.04.2014 - 12:24
I think such complaints should be taken serious, because no game that took the route into the pay2win land is playable and attracting new players. (I don't see this to apply for AW yet though)
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28.04.2014 - 12:37
Off topic, let me clear up some lies about PD.

Ecrit par Skall, 27.04.2014 at 22:26

General: defence - 45 sp (50 sp) Your General adds +1 defence to all units in the stack.

Now with that upgrade lets say I'm PD and I have a stack of 10 Infantry.

10x6= 60 Def
(PD)10x7= 70 Def
(GEN+PD)10x8= 80 Def

PD has more defence than that. You're forgetting the defence bonuses.

Normal inf have a 1 defence bonus in the city, so it's
10x7 = 70 Def
PD inf have an extra 1 defence bonus in the city, so it's 9 defence per inf in total (7+1+1 city bonus)
10x9 = 90 Def
With a gen this gets one more:
10x10= 100 Def
AND if they're attacking with the most common and cheapest offensive unit - tanks, PD gets an EXTRA +1 Def bonus against that, so with a general with PD against a tank it's
10x11 = 110 Def
that's 110 Def for 500 cost with cost upgrade, or the equivalent cost of just over 4 normal tanks, which can put out a minute fraction of that attack. Now tell me that's not OP

On topic, I don't have a general. I've never used one, and it really only makes a difference if you think it does. Just let them think they're better than you because they have a general, and then it becomes their weakness. I have played competitively for over a year now, and have defended against a maximum rush by Skenderbu, to name just one example. This does not make me better (normally I'm dust compared to him), but would he have rushed if I had a general?
Forget your worries and enjoy the game. And consider every victory over a player with a gen is demonstrating your superior skill over a player that should have an advantage. The work might be harder, but when all is counted, it's worth it.
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28.04.2014 - 13:24
I would encourage people to get premium, it's not that much expensive for a good game like Aw. Aw and it's developers needs money too!
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28.04.2014 - 13:57
Black Shark
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Generals are a huge reason Terminal. Omfg don b stoopid
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28.04.2014 - 19:13
UnIeashed
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Ecrit par Unleashed, 28.04.2014 at 06:07

title: This implies something, like saying, what about those who don't have a BMW from their parents on their 18th birthday? BAN BMW or give one to everyone!

OP is retarded.

Bad.
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28.04.2014 - 20:32
 Htin
Ecrit par Goblin, 28.04.2014 at 09:33

Any one intersted in my idea of:

• separating the general unit from more strategies package
• players gifted a general unit if they introduce X number of players to the game who reach at least X rank
• and nope not able to invite your X number of alts to the game ...different IP adresses needed


IF HE invite 500 alt ? diffrent IP. troll.. he can make lots of account as many as he wants.
1) he calls his friends, b) he move to other computer/library anywhere and still make an account. gg
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29.04.2014 - 01:06
Ecrit par Htin, 28.04.2014 at 20:32

Ecrit par Goblin, 28.04.2014 at 09:33

Any one intersted in my idea of:

• separating the general unit from more strategies package
• players gifted a general unit if they introduce X number of players to the game who reach at least X rank
• and nope not able to invite your X number of alts to the game ...different IP adresses needed


IF HE invite 500 alt ? diffrent IP. troll.. he can make lots of account as many as he wants.
1) he calls his friends, b) he move to other computer/library anywhere and still make an account. gg


Well that person doesn't have a life if he wants to go through that much trouble for some game,
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29.04.2014 - 03:17
Ecrit par Skittzophrenic, 29.04.2014 at 01:06

Ecrit par Htin, 28.04.2014 at 20:32

Ecrit par Goblin, 28.04.2014 at 09:33

Any one intersted in my idea of:

• separating the general unit from more strategies package
• players gifted a general unit if they introduce X number of players to the game who reach at least X rank
• and nope not able to invite your X number of alts to the game ...different IP adresses needed


IF HE invite 500 alt ? diffrent IP. troll.. he can make lots of account as many as he wants.
1) he calls his friends, b) he move to other computer/library anywhere and still make an account. gg


Well that person doesn't have a life if he wants to go through that much trouble for some game,

yup lol, well u can use VPN as well but that'll take 4ever and that's just ignorant and stupid,lo,
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29.04.2014 - 04:54
Ecrit par Skall, 27.04.2014 at 22:26

impersonating


If you wanted anyone to believe you when you faked your signature, you would have spelled correctly. I don't spell like that, retard.
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29.04.2014 - 10:04
AlexMonkey
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Ecrit par Goblin, 29.04.2014 at 04:57

OMG so someone is gona invite his 500 alts making them in school libraries etc. etc. and he is gona go trough all that trouble playing on school library computer (i repeat again) to reach a rank 6 for example ...i didnt say that you just need to invite certain number of people that wouldnt play and stay rank 0 forever.

btw. Critical ...1) calls his friends - thats the whole fuckin point -___- ....AND!!! i didnt mean you can make 500 alts on only ONE IP adress ...every invited person needs to have a different one not just from you, but from each other ...comprende??

If only 10 people would try to get a general this way and invite their friends ...or anyone for that matter (F.Sultan.Mehmet) imagine how much more players (and possible buyers of premium) would that mean for the game.


Proxies mate. There are always naughty people who will do as long as there is money involved.
Ranking up may take a little while but farming is really easy nowadays.
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29.04.2014 - 10:28
AlexMonkey
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Ecrit par Goblin, 29.04.2014 at 10:14

Ecrit par Guest, 29.04.2014 at 10:04

Proxies mate. There are always naughty people who will do as long as there is money involved.
Ranking up may take a little while but farming is really easy nowadays.


Well if someone is mad enough to spend his time doin this shit ...i say give the poor bastard a general.

Money is not even that much involved in this ...you dont get premium, you dont get a weapon package, you dont get nothing but a general unit that once everyone had.


Wait, to be honest I thought you meant protocoins as reward which is a whole different thing so nvm lol.
Something like this was implemented in eRepublik, a bigger online game than AW so I guess AW could handle it too.
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29.04.2014 - 14:24
 Htin
Ecrit par Goblin, 29.04.2014 at 04:57

OMG so someone is gona invite his 500 alts making them in school libraries etc. etc. and he is gona go trough all that trouble playing on school library computer (i repeat again) to reach a rank 6 for example ...i didnt say that you just need to invite certain number of people that wouldnt play and stay rank 0 forever.

btw. Critical ...1) calls his friends - thats the whole fuckin point -___- ....AND!!! i didnt mean you can make 500 alts on only ONE IP adress ...every invited person needs to have a different one not just from you, but from each other ...comprende??

If only 10 people would try to get a general this way and invite their friends ...or anyone for that matter (F.Sultan.Mehmet) imagine how much more players (and possible buyers of premium) would that mean for the game.


HOw about bit.ly ? heard people use it to earn cash that way.
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29.04.2014 - 14:25
 Htin
I don't care if a non-premium have a general. But he must support more upgrade
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29.04.2014 - 18:46
AlexMonkey
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Ecrit par Htin, 29.04.2014 at 14:24

Ecrit par Goblin, 29.04.2014 at 04:57

OMG so someone is gona invite his 500 alts making them in school libraries etc. etc. and he is gona go trough all that trouble playing on school library computer (i repeat again) to reach a rank 6 for example ...i didnt say that you just need to invite certain number of people that wouldnt play and stay rank 0 forever.

btw. Critical ...1) calls his friends - thats the whole fuckin point -___- ....AND!!! i didnt mean you can make 500 alts on only ONE IP adress ...every invited person needs to have a different one not just from you, but from each other ...comprende??

If only 10 people would try to get a general this way and invite their friends ...or anyone for that matter (F.Sultan.Mehmet) imagine how much more players (and possible buyers of premium) would that mean for the game.


HOw about bit.ly ? heard people use it to earn cash that way.


Bit ly only offers statistics and such, no advertisements/cash involved.
Probably you got confused with adfly, but I don't even know if that is allowed to use with AW.
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29.04.2014 - 18:55
 Htin
Ecrit par Guest, 29.04.2014 at 18:46

Ecrit par Htin, 29.04.2014 at 14:24

Ecrit par Goblin, 29.04.2014 at 04:57

OMG so someone is gona invite his 500 alts making them in school libraries etc. etc. and he is gona go trough all that trouble playing on school library computer (i repeat again) to reach a rank 6 for example ...i didnt say that you just need to invite certain number of people that wouldnt play and stay rank 0 forever.

btw. Critical ...1) calls his friends - thats the whole fuckin point -___- ....AND!!! i didnt mean you can make 500 alts on only ONE IP adress ...every invited person needs to have a different one not just from you, but from each other ...comprende??

If only 10 people would try to get a general this way and invite their friends ...or anyone for that matter (F.Sultan.Mehmet) imagine how much more players (and possible buyers of premium) would that mean for the game.


HOw about bit.ly ? heard people use it to earn cash that way.


Bit ly only offers statistics and such, no advertisements/cash involved.
Probably you got confused with adfly, but I don't even know if that is allowed to use with AW.

yea i think im confuse
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29.04.2014 - 18:55
 Htin
Ecrit par Guest, 29.04.2014 at 18:46

Ecrit par Htin, 29.04.2014 at 14:24

Ecrit par Goblin, 29.04.2014 at 04:57

OMG so someone is gona invite his 500 alts making them in school libraries etc. etc. and he is gona go trough all that trouble playing on school library computer (i repeat again) to reach a rank 6 for example ...i didnt say that you just need to invite certain number of people that wouldnt play and stay rank 0 forever.

btw. Critical ...1) calls his friends - thats the whole fuckin point -___- ....AND!!! i didnt mean you can make 500 alts on only ONE IP adress ...every invited person needs to have a different one not just from you, but from each other ...comprende??

If only 10 people would try to get a general this way and invite their friends ...or anyone for that matter (F.Sultan.Mehmet) imagine how much more players (and possible buyers of premium) would that mean for the game.


HOw about bit.ly ? heard people use it to earn cash that way.


Bit ly only offers statistics and such, no advertisements/cash involved.
Probably you got confused with adfly, but I don't even know if that is allowed to use with AW.

yea i think im confuse
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