Which was best?

Be serious no flame wars I'm doing a study and need data. Help me out. Commando eagle stay silent because the flame war starts when you speak. Thanks in advanced guys.

Im impressed there are so many different Albanias and more impressed that you know about them lmao. That being said the suggestion that modern day Albanians are descendants of Ancient Illyrians is more like a myth/theory than a fact. Maybe Albanian nationals can say some words about each faction so we can choose.

I just clicked Illy cuz it's a nice clan...

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 12.02.2016 at 15:07

Im impressed there are so many different Albanias and more impressed that you know about them lmao. That being said the suggestion that modern day Albanians are descendants of Ancient Illyrians is more like a myth/theory than a fact. Maybe Albanian nationals can say some words about each faction so we can choose.

It's my duty as a map maker to know these things.

Caucasus albania best albania

Ive studied some history on Albania and as far as i know they were the most prestigious and had a powerfull kingdom when they revolted against the Ottomans under their ruler Skanderbeg ( Gjergj Kastrioti ). Kastrioti were feudal ruler family who were always opposed against the Ottomans and they managed to unite with the other feudal families and make a united Albania against the Ottomans in the years 1440-1470. When Skanderbeg died the Ottomans made big offensives and the kingdom dissintegrated.

Hope that helps

Kurdistan Albania is best. Right?

Ecrit par Ghostface, 12.02.2016 at 17:27

Ive studied some history on Albania and as far as i know they were the most prestigious and had a powerfull kingdom when they revolted against the Ottomans under their ruler Skanderbeg ( Gjergj Kastrioti ). Kastrioti were feudal ruler family who were always opposed against the Ottomans and they managed to unite with the other feudal families and make a united Albania against the Ottomans in the years 1440-1470. When Skanderbeg died the Ottomans made big offensives and the kingdom dissintegrated.

Hope that helps

True, and if i can add, there were 2 big ottoman campaigns on Kingdom of Albania when they gained indipendence under rule of Skanderbeg, both campaigns were leaded by 2 different sultans, the first one had 100.000 ottomans vs 20.000 albanians and the 2nd one had 150.000 ottomans. We won both of them

Ecrit par Helly, 12.02.2016 at 14:54

Be serious no flame wars I'm doing a study and need data. Help me out. Commando eagle stay silent because the flame war starts when you speak. Thanks in advanced guys.

What kind of study is this and what kind of data you need when the question you ask is "Who was best?"
What kind of data is that? That some players in aw voted this is best or no this other one or no this one?

Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 12.02.2016 at 22:39

Ecrit par Helly, 12.02.2016 at 14:54

Be serious no flame wars I'm doing a study and need data. Help me out. Commando eagle stay silent because the flame war starts when you speak. Thanks in advanced guys.

What kind of study is this and what kind of data you need when the question you ask is "Who was best?"
What kind of data is that? That some players in aw voted this is best or no this other one or no this one?

New map need data.

Ecrit par Helly, 12.02.2016 at 22:55

Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 12.02.2016 at 22:39

Ecrit par Helly, 12.02.2016 at 14:54

Be serious no flame wars I'm doing a study and need data. Help me out. Commando eagle stay silent because the flame war starts when you speak. Thanks in advanced guys.

What kind of study is this and what kind of data you need when the question you ask is "Who was best?"
What kind of data is that? That some players in aw voted this is best or no this other one or no this one?

New map need data.

Illyria was 2nd mediterranean power after Rome.
Rome attacked Illyria many times but they always failed cuz we had better and stronger fleet. Rome conquered Illyria only because our fleet admiral dhimiter fari betrayed us since Rome promissed him to be the Illyrian King. Then Rome conquered Illyria and named him as the king. After a few years, he rebeled against Rome but he lost.

As for Ottoman Albanian, our territory was marked bigger than todays territory because it included some south montenegro citys, kosovo and some citys in north,east,west of kosovo (which are now in serbia), west side of macedonia , north side of greece. This was the territory that Albania was recognised to have during ottoman rule.

Venezian Albania was a lie, a fraud. Venezia only helped Albania because they knew that if ALbania would fall, ottomans could get in italy in matter of days. But Venezia did attack Albania, while Albanians were fighting both ottomans & Venezians under Skanderbeg rule, we manage to win against Venezians making them ask for a 2nd truce.

Principality of Arber was such a small territory therefor the power was weak aswell. You can find more of it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Arbanon


However, we got wikipedia nowdays in case you didnt know, or you have Albanian players, why would you ask in off topic everyone about Albanian history in different times and not wanting a flame war on this?!!! LOL its like throwing a lamb to a hungry pack of wolves and asking them not to fight for it lol. ps: in case some retard like pavle sees this thread and doesnt understand the comparison, lamb=thread, wolves = balkan people

Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 12.02.2016 at 23:31

Ecrit par Helly, 12.02.2016 at 22:55

Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 12.02.2016 at 22:39

Ecrit par Helly, 12.02.2016 at 14:54

Be serious no flame wars I'm doing a study and need data. Help me out. Commando eagle stay silent because the flame war starts when you speak. Thanks in advanced guys.

What kind of study is this and what kind of data you need when the question you ask is "Who was best?"
What kind of data is that? That some players in aw voted this is best or no this other one or no this one?

New map need data.

Illyria was 2nd mediterranean power after Rome.
Rome attacked Illyria many times but they always failed cuz we had better and stronger fleet. Rome conquered Illyria only because our fleet admiral dhimiter fari betrayed us since Rome promissed him to be the Illyrian King. Then Rome conquered Illyria and named him as the king. After a few years, he rebeled against Rome but he lost.

As for Ottoman Albanian, our territory was marked bigger than todays territory because it included some south montenegro citys, kosovo and some citys in north,east,west of kosovo (which are now in serbia), west side of macedonia , north side of greece. This was the territory that Albania was recognised to have during ottoman rule.

Venezian Albania was a lie, a fraud. Venezia only helped Albania because they knew that if ALbania would fall, ottomans could get in italy in matter of days. But Venezia did attack Albania, while Albanians were fighting both ottomans & Venezians under Skanderbeg rule, we manage to win against Venezians making them ask for a 2nd truce.

Principality of Arber was such a small territory therefor the power was weak aswell. You can find more of it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Arbanon


However, we got wikipedia nowdays in case you didnt know, or you have Albanian players, why would you ask in off topic everyone about Albanian history in different times and not wanting a flame war on this?!!! LOL its like throwing a lamb to a hungry pack of wolves and asking them not to fight for it lol. ps: in case some retard like pavle sees this thread and doesnt understand the comparison, lamb=thread, wolves = balkan people

How do you think I found out what I posted? The point is trying to get information not relayed to wiki which isn't very good when trying to draw borders up.

Venezian Albania

Serbian Albania best Albania.

Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 12.02.2016 at 23:31

Illyria was 2nd mediterranean power after Rome.
Rome attacked Illyria many times but they always failed cuz we had better and stronger fleet. Rome conquered Illyria only because our fleet admiral dhimiter fari betrayed us since Rome promissed him to be the Illyrian King. Then Rome conquered Illyria and named him as the king. After a few years, he rebeled against Rome but he lost.

Where do you get your info lol? The mentions of Illyrians as people, comes mainly from Greek historians and are so scarce, especially in comparison with other tribes and civilizations of the time, than one can conclude they were pretty irrelevant. What is known about Illyria, is that it was a land occupied by backwarded barbarian tribes, mainly living in mountains, fighting among each other, pirating and selling their daughters at markets (herodotus).

As for the "2nd mediterranean power after Rome" i guess the insignificant Greeks were third. That is why when the Persians enslaved Balkans, including Thrace and Macedon and all Balkanoids coraborated with them, it was Athens and Sparta that freed them and drove the Persians out. I fail to see any mentions of Illyria and Illyrians, from any source, that can suggest any factor of significance or relevance in the era/area.

That being said, Macedon defeated and subjugated Illyrians way before Romans. Alexander fathers did and Alexander himself defeated them. But you have to understand that there were no gains for fully conquering the region of Illyria by Greeks, as they were busy fighting eachother and Persia and an invasion to the North would only serve as a distraction at most and there was virtually zero to gain by conquering warmongering barbarian tribes, with no social organization, no infastructure, no writen language, no riches and no technological advancements.

Lastly as for the Romans, im under the impression they won the first official conflict, even when their fleet was severely weakened by the first Punic war. Then the Illyrians illegally broke the treaty and attacked Rome right at a time when Gauls were advancing from the North and Carthaginians from the south. And even then, Rome gathered its forces and defeated the Illyrians, again.

SP Police is obviously the best, it outclasses all the others by far. The only reason it isn't on the poll is because the poll maker knew it would get all the votes

Duel me boi, shadow aces is shit clan

Ecrit par The Sphinx, 03.05.2017 at 19:34

Ecrit par Player 999, 03.05.2017 at 17:22

Duel me boi, shadow aces is shit clan

yeah i don't think anyone will duel you after your shit with checkmate.

lol it seems checkmate told everyone about that duel, kinda sad tbh

Ecrit par Player 999, 03.05.2017 at 19:35

lol it seems checkmate told everyone about that duel, kinda sad tbh

It's in the middle of the forums... and you even bragged about it.... how did you expect no one to see it? Sad expectations

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 22.02.2016 at 03:58

So Illyrians have actual connection to Albania?

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 04.05.2017 at 07:31

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 22.02.2016 at 03:58

So Illyrians have actual connection to Albania?

At most as much connection as modern British have with the ancient natives of Britannia ( celtic tribe called Britons) that inhabited the area prior to the Anglo-saxon invasion, but probably even less because there is not even a mention of Albania before the Middle ages. No matter how backwarded (Illyrians) and Albanians were, im pretty sure they could manage to write down their own history, if it ever existed.

I mean looking at it objectively, its not even in your best interest to claim Illyrian ancestry when your language is 500 years old. If you are trully Illyrian what were you doing the last 2000 years, when all the neighbours around you perfected philosophy, science, art, architecture and created empires when you couldnt even create a method of communication.

Ecrit par Dbacks, 12.02.2016 at 15:23

I just clicked Illy cuz it's a nice clan...

Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 12.02.2016 at 23:31

Illyria was 2nd mediterranean power after Rome.

lol

Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 12.02.2016 at 23:31

Rome attacked Illyria many times but they always failed cuz we had better and stronger fleet.

looooooool

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 04.05.2017 at 08:21

At most as much connection as modern British have with the ancient natives of Britannia ( celtic tribe called Britons) that inhabited the area prior to the Anglo-saxon invasion, but probably even less because there is not even a mention of Albania before the Middle ages. No matter how backwarded (Illyrians) and Albanians were, im pretty sure they could manage to write down their own history, if it ever existed.

I mean looking at it objectively, its not even in your best interest to claim Illyrian ancestry when your language is 500 years old. If you are trully Illyrian what were you doing the last 2000 years, when all the neighbours around you perfected philosophy, science, art, architecture and created empires when you couldnt even create a method of communication.

So you are telling me it's unknown where Albanians are from?

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 04.05.2017 at 08:21

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 04.05.2017 at 07:31

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 22.02.2016 at 03:58

So Illyrians have actual connection to Albania?

At most as much connection as modern British have with the ancient natives of Britannia ( celtic tribe called Britons) that inhabited the area prior to the Anglo-saxon invasion, but probably even less because there is not even a mention of Albania before the Middle ages. No matter how backwarded (Illyrians) and Albanians were, im pretty sure they could manage to write down their own history, if it ever existed.

I mean looking at it objectively, its not even in your best interest to claim Illyrian ancestry when your language is 500 years old. If you are trully Illyrian what were you doing the last 2000 years, when all the neighbours around you perfected philosophy, science, art, architecture and created empires when you couldnt even create a method of communication.

Is a shame that the romans Didnt implement a final solution and genocided all the illyrians and thracians.