RIP in piece 4nic

Ecrit par Guest, 10.12.2018 at 15:57

Bro CC

Beside that and troll apart, we're many thinking that the mod team should be completly changed (only a few mods are really beyond reproch, and it's not because they're inactive or inefficient).

It's not due to the mods in particular, it's mostly due to the fact that mods choose each other, which promote inequalities cause some might have a tendancy to vote for a mod cause he's his friend rather than vote for a guy who would be a better mod, but with whom he doesn't get along well with.

Just so u know, only a few people think mod team is respectable, so u cannot expecte respect from players toward your action, maybe it's sad, but it's so.

Again it's not only due to the current mod team, but something has to be done with the moderation in general.

I get your point, but believe me no one votes for his friend just because of that, even if we did, it would still have to go through the majority of the staff.

Don't expect respect? Lmao... Ofc and I will expect some respect. However people think they are always right and everyone is after them.

Ecrit par Squat Warrior, 10.12.2018 at 16:11

Ecrit par Tundy, 10.12.2018 at 16:05

Saying stuff like: kill yourself, hope you get cancer etc.

Not surprising that you promote that such people get no punishment though. In your book, the only ones punished should be people who would defend themselves against such misery.

Not to mention he wants to become a Mod.

A mod telling people to kill themselves and all kinds of nasty insults.

Boywind. You don't need modship. You need psychotherapy.

i never said that lol.

Don't lie.

You made like 3 guest accounts spewing the same suff.

Then you got muted.

Correct Mod Decision.

You need professional help.


But according to Laochra, that's not toxicity. The problem is, funny posts in off topic.

First they came for the trolls, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a troll.

Then they came for the global chat spammers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a global chat spammer.

Then they came for the Kangz, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Kang.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Ecrit par Guest, 10.12.2018 at 16:09

It's been a long time since all the critics towards mods are shut down every time cause it's " personal ".

Don't act virgin

Anything silenced is because it's not supposed to go public... how many times have we said this?

Ecrit par Cold Case, 10.12.2018 at 16:12

Ecrit par Guest, 10.12.2018 at 15:57

Bro CC

Beside that and troll apart, we're many thinking that the mod team should be completly changed (only a few mods are really beyond reproch, and it's not because they're inactive or inefficient).

It's not due to the mods in particular, it's mostly due to the fact that mods choose each other, which promote inequalities cause some might have a tendancy to vote for a mod cause he's his friend rather than vote for a guy who would be a better mod, but with whom he doesn't get along well with.

Just so u know, only a few people think mod team is respectable, so u cannot expecte respect from players toward your action, maybe it's sad, but it's so.

Again it's not only due to the current mod team, but something has to be done with the moderation in general.

I get your point, but believe me no one votes for his friend just because of that, even if we did, it would still have to go through the majority of the staff.

Don't expect respect? Lmao... Ofc and I will expect some respect. However people think they are always right and everyone is after them.

To be fair 4nic pro deserved his ban, and boywind is autist that's right

But CC u need to admit there is somethig broken with the perception the community has about the mod team.

On your points :

1. I think u're playing the candid, but never mind, the mod election system is broken and has to be change ;

2. I mean the decisions aren't respected ; the mods, like any player, has to be respected as a person ofc

Ecrit par Guest, 10.12.2018 at 16:12

First they came for the trolls, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a troll.

Then they came for the global chat spammers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a global chat spammer.

Then they came for the Kangz, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Kang.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Except This Time, They Only Came for the Trolls.

Finally, Mods make correct, Unbiased decisions.

And Everyone loses their minds.

Or perhaps by "Everyone" I should mean Illyria, the most toxic clan.

Sorry, toxic trolls. No more.

Ecrit par Cold Case, 10.12.2018 at 16:07

Sure, it's your decision to hear any dude's opinion you wish. All I'm saying is you're not getting anywhere by acting like this, nor do you find "justice".

You both are immature in this one.

Yes it is, talk to david, david will talk to me and the rest, and if we agree there is a problem something will be done. Also david has his own eyes. You believing something doesn't make it the right thing.

Well to be honest, like you said our opinion on you is irrelevant to you, that's what I can say about your opinion regarding these decisions, but I won't. You don't know the real deal with these decisions obviously but you still comment on them. You know how this goes, it was a mutual decision.

I don't seek justice. I don't believe that is an achievable goal atm. Even as we speak unleashed mass spams this thread from tunder's account.

Ecrit par Permamuted, 10.12.2018 at 16:16

I don't seek justice. I don't believe that is an achievable goal atm. Even as we speak unleashed mass spams this thread from tunder's account.

If you had just PMed you would be aware that we know this already. I don't get why you don't follow the rules you were trying to apply some weeks ago?

Ecrit par Tundy, 10.12.2018 at 16:12

i got muted for 5 days because i posted a picture of wojack trying to suck his own dick on a thread where ce was tryign to suck his own dick
then when i poked fun at cc for muting me but not even deleting the picture on my alt boywind, i got muted for 30 days
i just didnt even see the big fuckin deal about the picture either. i didn't even think it was that nsfw. people posted a worse shit before acq and sid saw the picture and did nothing, but cc muted me so i was like wtf

this is the image i got muted for
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1447/82/1447823904555.jpg

Ecrit par Permamuted, 10.12.2018 at 16:16

Ecrit par Cold Case, 10.12.2018 at 16:07

Sure, it's your decision to hear any dude's opinion you wish. All I'm saying is you're not getting anywhere by acting like this, nor do you find "justice".

You both are immature in this one.

Yes it is, talk to david, david will talk to me and the rest, and if we agree there is a problem something will be done. Also david has his own eyes. You believing something doesn't make it the right thing.

Well to be honest, like you said our opinion on you is irrelevant to you, that's what I can say about your opinion regarding these decisions, but I won't. You don't know the real deal with these decisions obviously but you still comment on them. You know how this goes, it was a mutual decision.

I don't seek justice. I don't believe that is an achievable goal atm. Even as we speak unleashed mass spams this thread from tunder's account.

Good job on ignoring all the facts, but ignoring them won't change them: You promote toxicity, stand for biased punishments, and are one of the most toxic unhealthy players around.

I want to publicly Applaud the Mod Team for Standing Straight and Tall in front of these attempts.

You are doing the right thing, and don't let anyone or anything ever sway you again.

Good night all.

Ecrit par Tundy, 10.12.2018 at 16:19

Ecrit par Permamuted, 10.12.2018 at 16:16

Ecrit par Cold Case, 10.12.2018 at 16:07

Sure, it's your decision to hear any dude's opinion you wish. All I'm saying is you're not getting anywhere by acting like this, nor do you find "justice".

You both are immature in this one.

Yes it is, talk to david, david will talk to me and the rest, and if we agree there is a problem something will be done. Also david has his own eyes. You believing something doesn't make it the right thing.

Well to be honest, like you said our opinion on you is irrelevant to you, that's what I can say about your opinion regarding these decisions, but I won't. You don't know the real deal with these decisions obviously but you still comment on them. You know how this goes, it was a mutual decision.

I don't seek justice. I don't believe that is an achievable goal atm. Even as we speak unleashed mass spams this thread from tunder's account.

Good job on ignoring all the facts, but ignoring them won't change them: You promote toxicity, stand for biased punishments, and are one of the most toxic unhealthy players around.

I want to publicly Applaud the Mod Team for Standing Straight and Tall in front of these attempts.

You are doing the right thing, and don't let anyone or anything ever sway you again.

Good night all.

Dude shut up, stop spamming.

And also, if i was muted for 30 days because i shit posted on my alt, then unleashed and ce should be muted as well. none of this fuckin hypocritical bullshit.

Ok lets not start flame wars or all this will be pointless.

Please don't make me lock this thread. Also, please stop posting with alts.

Ecrit par Cold Case, 10.12.2018 at 16:18

Ecrit par Permamuted, 10.12.2018 at 16:16

I don't seek justice. I don't believe that is an achievable goal atm. Even as we speak unleashed mass spams this thread from tunder's account.

If you had just PMed you would be aware that we know this already. I don't get why you don't follow the rules you were trying to apply some weeks ago?

I never applied the rules like this. I fought against such heavy regulatory enforcement. Go read my criticisms of sultan and chrome on the modforum before i left. I'm not going to elaborate on this anymore. You're right about this being pointless. I'm just pissed to see nic and bw banned and unleashed spamming a thread about them acting as if christmas came early. It's all such a joke.

You guys are going to feel the community backlash with or without my input.

I don't hurry to judge but I believe mods should provide more detailed explanation for such a severe punishment. But mostely I don't think people should be careless about how playerbase is being treatened or about mods motives and conduction in order to maintain "proper" behaviour.

Ecrit par Cold Case, 10.12.2018 at 16:24

Ok lets not start flame wars or all this will be pointless.

Please don't make me lock this thread. Also, please stop posting with alts.

Dude i'm not opening flame wars.

Just realize how fuking bad the situation is.

And i'm not pointing responsability on u or on the current team, it's years of bad habits.

But as u noticed we have a new admin, it's a good occasion to give a fresh air.

And since u've been mod for a long time, i think u should resign, like all the current mod team ; Dave should, at the same time, ask around to see who's fit to become mod.

Who become mods or not shouldn't be a mod decision.

Ecrit par Permamuted, 10.12.2018 at 16:24

I never applied the rules like this

You never applied the rules period.

As evidence by you wanting the rules to Not be applied to 4nic and boywind.

You only applied them where you saw fit, to benefit you and your toxic friends.

4nic, boywind, you, most everyone (with a few exceptions) in Illirya, is toxic.

Most people agree on this.

So stop coming in here pretending to be the 2nd coming of jesus. You ain't fooling anyone.

Ecrit par Guest, 10.12.2018 at 16:30

Ecrit par Cold Case, 10.12.2018 at 16:24

Ok lets not start flame wars or all this will be pointless.

Please don't make me lock this thread. Also, please stop posting with alts.

Dude i'm not opening flame wars.

Just realize how fuking bad the situation is.

And i'm not pointing responsability on u or on the current team, it's years of bad habits.

But as u noticed we have a new admin, it's a good occasion to give a fresh air.

And since u've been mod for a long time, i think u should resign, like all the current mod team ; Dave should, at the same time, ask around to see who's fit to become mod.

Who become mods or not shouldn't be a mod decision.

Horrible idea. Take for example the thread where Boywind asks to be a mod.

Everyone from Illirya (his toxic friends) recommend him.

But based on his actions, we know he would not be a good fit.

Stop trying to silence anyone with facts and real arguments. Most everything you post is nonsense.

The Mod Team is fine as it is Right Now.

I will let David know this.

Ecrit par Nero, 10.12.2018 at 15:34

Our outlawed king, our exiled prince,
What was the purpose behind this coup?
This game has been so dull ever since
Why have they punished you?
Under a sky so blue, yet full of sorrow
Where will this game be tomorrow?
Thinking of the future makes me wince
Shall he return in a golden hue?
Or have the mods already taken their hands for a rinse?
Already, trouble has begun to brew

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 10.12.2018 at 16:29

I don't hurry to judge but I believe mods should provide more detailed explanation for such a severe punishment. But mostely I don't think people should be careless about how playerbase is being treatened or about mods motives and conduction in order to maintain "proper" behaviour.

I do agree that maybe there should be some sort of way we can provide rationales as to why decisions were made. 4nic has had a long history of rule violations and harassment which could not be overlooked or not acted upon.

One thing which I think no one here is recognizing, is that he was not banned for one specific occasion. There has been "multiple" cases of harassment of other players, and have been "multiple" cases of IE abuse, which for some reason one or two mods previously thought it was ok to let them off the hook despite a majorative rule that he should have been banned back then. There has been two more cases recently of harassment and IE abuse which is why the situation needed to be taken care of.

As for unleashed, that is completely unrelated, and we are dealing with it separately at the moment.

Ecrit par Tundy, 10.12.2018 at 16:40

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lol that thread about me being mod was obviously a joke

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 10.12.2018 at 16:29

I don't hurry to judge but I believe mods should provide more detailed explanation for such a severe punishment. But mostely I don't think people should be careless about how playerbase is being treatened or about mods motives and conduction in order to maintain "proper" behaviour.

4nic gets 2 weeks ban for IE abuse, porn links, insults, spam, and being toxic 24/7

"omg severe punishment"

Unleashed gets perma banned at the whim of Laochra, banning him for personal vendetta

*nobody bats an eye*

One Last Post from me, then I'm outta these debates

There's a lot of you who are really confused. Let me tell you what this is.


This is NOT a community thread complaining about the mods.

This is an orchestrated, planned action by mostly Illyra players, trying to bend the rules and not have them applied to their own toxic members.

That's all it is. Look at the coalition of each poster.

Now imagine for a second, if these people would become mods, by replacing the current ones, like they want to.

A better Atwar? Give me a break.

OPEN YOUR EYES.

Ecrit par Tundy, 10.12.2018 at 16:58

moaning and groaning

Ecrit par Sultan of Swing, 10.12.2018 at 16:50

I do agree that maybe there should be some sort of way we can provide rationales as to why decisions were made. 4nic has had a long history of rule violations and harassment which could not be overlooked or not acted upon.

One thing which I think no one here is recognizing, is that he was not banned for one specific occasion. There has been "multiple" cases of harassment of other players, and have been "multiple" cases of IE abuse, which for some reason one or two mods previously thought it was ok to let them off the hook despite a majorative rule that he should have been banned back then. There has been two more cases recently of harassment and IE abuse which is why the situation needed to be taken care of.

As for unleashed, that is completely unrelated, and we are dealing with it separately at the moment.

Thank you for you answer. Flamewars are ok given most of them happen in Off-topic and game can be very boring because admins did'nt pay it attention for years. But 4nic and Boywind did harass people that had nothing to do with them just to show that they can. And if they were warned about it I agree punishment is reasonable. Regarding IE - If you have proofs that it was used for purpose of ganeplay hacking he deserves far more than 2 weeks (Kappa got banned for 3 months), But if he used it just to fake photos or something then it should'nt matter since he already got banned for other fouls.

But nonetheless, I believe the most problematic and furstating issue is that spam and harassment continues at this very moment by Unleashed who simply would not shut up. We would like to know what's going on for it?

Also please read my pm.

Ecrit par Tundy, 10.12.2018 at 16:58

4nic gets 2 weeks ban for IE abuse, porn links, insults, spam, and being toxic 24/7

"omg severe punishment"

Unleashed gets perma banned at the whim of Laochra, banning him for personal vendetta

*nobody bats an eye*

Bro you had it coming. The amount of mutes and warnings you got over the years almost equals to Waffel's.

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 10.12.2018 at 17:09

Ecrit par Tundy, 10.12.2018 at 16:58

4nic gets 2 weeks ban for IE abuse, porn links, insults, spam, and being toxic 24/7

"omg severe punishment"

Unleashed gets perma banned at the whim of Laochra, banning him for personal vendetta

*nobody bats an eye*

Bro you had it coming. The amount of mutes and warnings you got over the years almost equals to Waffel's.

4nic had it coming.

Stop making Excuses.

Apply the same rules to everyone without exception.

That's fairness. That's what we all want.

All they are doing with this thread, is subliminally make a statement: "Punish everyone else, but not us".

Doesn't work that way. Not anymore.

Ecrit par Tundy, 10.12.2018 at 17:12

4nic had it coming.

Stop making Excuses.

Apply the same rules to everyone without exception.

That's fairness. That's what we all want.

All they are doing with this thread, is subliminally make a statement: "Punish everyone else, but not us".

Doesn't work that way. Not anymore.

Duel?

Notice how Laochra purosefully avoided and was unable to combat any of my arguments.

Because he can't address them head-on. Because he knows they're true. He has to go around them, make stuff up.

The mark of a lost debate. This thread can now be locked.

Out.

Increasing the policing doesn't reduce the crime. Check out real world examples and think at least a little bit why it doesn't work. This will only kill the userbase and do nothing else.

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 10.12.2018 at 17:08

i did not harass anyone and 4nic certainly did not get banned because of ie abuse.

Ecrit par Squat Warrior, 10.12.2018 at 18:08

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 10.12.2018 at 17:08

i did not harass anyone and 4nic certainly did not get banned because of ie abuse.

Despite this being false...

Ecrit par Squat Warrior, 10.12.2018 at 16:22

And also, if i was muted for 30 days because i shit posted on my alt, then unleashed and ce should be muted as well. none of this fuckin hypocritical bullshit.

I couldn't agree more tbh. This goes back to what Rock Lee posted earlier, maybe we should create a log of moderator actions so people can be informed as to what it is we do when it comes to bans/mutes etc.