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Posté par Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

08.09.2016 - 16:39
Stop putting me on a side with the ppl you dont want to become consul, you sukas.

i hereby resign to find solace in sicily, all my money, equites and possesions go to darth

suckus my glorious dickus
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08.09.2016 - 16:40
Consul Vote
1) Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome)& Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Censor Vote
1)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Praetor Vote
1)Felix Phoenicus (Phoenix)

Marian Land Bill Tier III
1) Aye

Land Commissioner (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816)

Trial of Cassius Caelius
2) Guilty
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08.09.2016 - 17:03

‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ "Senators consider this when deciding your judgement on Cassius Caelius. The concessions that Cassius Caelius has recieve belong to Rome, and should be offered to Rome. Is there a possibility that Cassius has lost his remembrance to do such things, or that he has greater things in mind for the riches? Caelius is not well known for a greedy mindset, nor for his hoarding of gold. Let us hear from Caelius the reason for him not giving to Rome what is Rome's."
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08.09.2016 - 18:20
Mrarmy, tunder, phoenix, aqollo hurry up and vote or else not, especially since safari trial is exactly even atm

I seriously consider making it that you have to vote if able, or else you don't get a roll for equite
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08.09.2016 - 18:39
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Consul Vote
2) Sextus Octavius (Tirpitz406) & Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)


Censor Vote
2)Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Praetor Vote
1)Felix Phoenicus (Phoenix)



Marian Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3 unrest)
Sponsor: Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) (will gain +4 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Marco Flavius (Aqollo) (will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Trial of Cassius Caelius
Presiding Censor: Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Presiding Praetor: Servius Marcus (Ghost) (will gain 3 influence if accused is found gulity)
Accused : Cassius Caelius (due to 9 influence +9 votes in his defense)
Crime: Avarice (Minor Prosecution)
Punishment: -5 influence, -5 popularity, all concessions lost

Octavius speaks;

"For generations the Caelii have held tightly onto their grain monopoly from Egypt, but is it fair that one citizen should profit so greatly while so many others are in poverty? I bear no ill will against the man but the time has come perhaps to let others control this valuable monopoly for a time lest the wealth concentrate into the hands of the few...
As a jury of his peers, you must now make your decision

1) innocent
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08.09.2016 - 18:50
Consul Vote
1) Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome)& Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Censor Vote
2)Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Praetor Vote
1)Felix Phoenicus (Phoenix)

"Now, the Senate shall vote on the proposals of the Consuls. Tribunes speak now or forever hold your peace!"

Governors
Consuls have chosen not to nominate anyone. Any person with a tribune may choose an open province (all but sicily are) and become governor.

Marian Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3 unrest)
Sponsor: Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) (will gain +4 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Marco Flavius (Aqollo) (will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Trial of Cassius Caelius

1) Innocent

Land Commissioner (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) (favored by mrarmy +8 votes)
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08.09.2016 - 19:09
Consul: 2) Sextus Octavius (Tirpitz406) & Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Censor: 2)Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Praetor: 1)Felix Phoenicus (Phoenix)

Land Bill: 1) Aye


Trial: Guilty














Lo siento about late reply, been busy and logged on for quick sec
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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08.09.2016 - 19:39
I will abstain from all voting except censor where I will vote phoenixking and safari which I will vote innocent.
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08.09.2016 - 23:31
==Turn 11: Phase 1 has begun==
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08.09.2016 - 23:36
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Any faction I can join? I can vote on stuff I guess...
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08.09.2016 - 23:38
3 talents on Equite
7 talents on Chariot Races
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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08.09.2016 - 23:52
Sertorius sits down in the Senate chamber

"I am so glad to be back in Rome among my friends. Illyricum is a ghastly province. Those barbarians are fortunate that we conquered them to provide them a level of civilization they would have never achieved on their own. Regardless my father and I were unable to teach the balkan savages to be proper human beings, I doubt they ever will be.

As for this recent news, it is amusing that the Macedonians have challenged us for a third time, will they ever learn? This time they must be permanently crushed by a good commander, I nominate Africanus or Marco Flavius, and I myself would like to see if I could teach those rebels in hispania a lesson in challenging roman authority."

3 on equite
collect 2 talents debt from Marius (pyrrhus)
collect 12 talents from Flavius (aqollo)
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09.09.2016 - 00:48
Google Chrome's Faction is doomed, Populates has more voting power and more wealth per turn. There is only 3 "neutrals" MrArmy and Zephyrusu are Populares in all but name. The major factions require 2/3 neutrals to keep majority.

SInce Both phoenixes are out in governorship, Populares only require 1 neutral to win any given election. If darth returns then it would be mathematically impossible for Populares to lose.
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09.09.2016 - 00:52
This is convenient... The turn I take nearer Spain as a province it doesn't earn any money and Macedonia decides to show up...

3 on equite.

I call on my loyal legions to help defend spain

This gives me a strengh of 9, I request the senate send me atleast 2 legions to help
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09.09.2016 - 01:14
3 on equite
10 to rome
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09.09.2016 - 01:55
Hmm the math is wrong on the unrest thing.
Unrest last turn is 0
Land bill gives it -3
Dice roll gives +2
And Races of Gaius Marius gives it -1
Land bill + Dr + races = -3+2+(-1) = -4+2 = -2
Since unrest can't be negative, unrest is zero. Not 2.
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09.09.2016 - 02:03
Also, 3 on equite
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09.09.2016 - 05:23
1 on equite 3 to rome
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09.09.2016 - 05:28
6 on equite
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ho
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09.09.2016 - 05:37
3 on equite, 10 talents spent on raising auxiliary troops in Cisalpine Gaul.
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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09.09.2016 - 06:22
3 on Equite
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Someone Better Than You
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09.09.2016 - 06:33
3 on equite, 2 to rome
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09.09.2016 - 07:27
We haven't done anything to deserve being "doomed" if everyone wants to allyfag against a neutral faction, let them
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09.09.2016 - 11:19
I hope we don't get another natural disaster next turn. The state can't afford it, what with all these wars cropping up again.
We were loaded with a 150+
Now we have just 68...
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09.09.2016 - 11:23
"The poor families of our veterans need more land and free farming equipment, I propose a Tier I land bill, with my dear friend Galerius Nipius Africanus as co-sponsor. "

Sertorian Land Bill (Tier I)
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09.09.2016 - 12:38


I will propose a modest proposal: The redistribution of land within Hispania. (Tier III land Bill)
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09.09.2016 - 13:22
I cosponsor the Tier III land Bil
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09.09.2016 - 15:36
Ecrit par Aetius, 09.09.2016 at 11:23

"The poor families of our veterans need more land and free farming equipment, I propose a Tier I land bill, with my dear friend Galerius Nipius Africanus as co-sponsor. "

Sertorian Land Bill (Tier I)

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09.09.2016 - 16:56
What is that shit on Sicily
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Someone Better Than You
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09.09.2016 - 17:10
Ecrit par Zephyrusu, 09.09.2016 at 16:56

What is that shit on Sicily

Read the legend below the pic...
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