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Posté par Permamuted, 10.02.2019 - 11:22
Now we have scenario cws and even tournaments I think it is time we start balancing out the main scenarios. We should start with ww1.

Entente is undeniably stronger than the central powers. All the top players agree(except njab). I personally have played all the picks more than once at this stage. Its not wildly imbalanced. If i were to estimate a win % ratio i would say 60:40 in Ententes favour.

Entente just has so many plays available. Imo cp requires 3 small buffs and in no particular order:

1. We need 3 or so trenches in Uzhhorod.



This is to prevent russia sending stacks into austria. While yes prussia can help usually the damage is already done by the time it arrives. It's a big difference if russia is forced to maneuver around lodomera. 5v1 plays on austria imo is 1 of the strongest entente metas. It's so easy to do and super effective for easy wins. Even the best austria players will struggle to handle it as france uk italy russia and serbia all gank you. Bonus points for some romania harassment.

2. We need a Turkey buff. Discuss.

Really easy country to cheese rush. Either uk and france drednaught rush gali or uk just rushes egypt trench. Turk has to play very conservatively and it's extremely hard to hold ground. While historically this should be the case, it should not be this easy for uk to wreck it. Imo give bali a spawn/defence buff or buff the spawn around turkey.

3. West germany needs a buff. Imo +500 income and some additional spawn. 15+ minimum.

While west germany falling to the allies midgame is historically accurate it is far too easy atm. On 1 hand you've the famous imp russia funding lb west cheese rush on the trenches which kills wg before t20. On the other hand you've standard imp uk and france which when efficiently managed with conservative russia funding can comfortably break a pd germany shortly after t20. Even if uk or france fuckup and mismanage a stack or lose their gen, they can still comfortably wreck wg by around t30. Theyve huge income, the micro of 2 players, powerful units and reinforcement events from america to ensure germany dies. Germany needs the extra spawn and the income so it can fund AND throw extra naval harassment at uk and france. As a bonus side effect it'll make the country more fun to play.

Looking forward to the responses.

And the abuse.
12.02.2019 - 14:20
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Ecrit par Permamuted, 12.02.2019 at 14:18

Ecrit par Witch-Doctor, 12.02.2019 at 13:26

Why even bother with several hundred word post telling us that entente is op.


Ikr, you would think it would be self evident to anyone with eyes and half a brain.


Yeah it would be self evident that CP is clearly the more viable pick.
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12.02.2019 - 14:24
 4nic
Ecrit par Witch-Doctor, 12.02.2019 at 14:20

Ecrit par Permamuted, 12.02.2019 at 14:18

Ecrit par Witch-Doctor, 12.02.2019 at 13:26

Why even bother with several hundred word post telling us that entente is op.


Ikr, you would think it would be self evident to anyone with eyes and half a brain.


Yeah it would be self evident that CP is clearly the more viable pick.

no its not
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12.02.2019 - 14:29
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Ecrit par 4nic, 12.02.2019 at 14:24

Ecrit par Witch-Doctor, 12.02.2019 at 14:20

Ecrit par Permamuted, 12.02.2019 at 14:18

Ecrit par Witch-Doctor, 12.02.2019 at 13:26

Why even bother with several hundred word post telling us that entente is op.


Ikr, you would think it would be self evident to anyone with eyes and half a brain.


Yeah it would be self evident that CP is clearly the more viable pick.

no its not


I've played the map much longer than you, my assessment is clearly more accurate.
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12.02.2019 - 16:00
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13.02.2019 - 16:20
 Evic
1. I think Uzhorod is fine, russian rush of Hungary is extremely risky and with right Prussia and Austria a suicide mission.

2. Turkey might need a slight buff income after a certain turn, removing some of its income drain events would be fine, no major changes needed.

3. No need to buff WG, just remove HA or heavily nerf it, it is the only thing capable of killing WG that early, without it west has to wait for tanks to push, like the old days.
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13.02.2019 - 18:54
Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 09:38

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 11.02.2019 at 09:27

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 08:58

Most scenario players are god damn awful, i would take their advice with a grain of salt


I'd rather take advice from people who actually played the map a lot than from someone who has played the map 2 times in the last year... or 7 times in the last 4 years xaxaxa


We could play right now and the better player should be determined by winning 2 out of 3 games.

You can pick Russia and I'll pick Prussia. If the game is perfectly balanced as u say -then u won't mind me picking Prussia all 3 times.

You say i hardly have ever played the map in the past 4 years - that is true.

So if i win at least one of the 3 games how will that look on you given that you played it almost everyday?



Still waiting for our duel....
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14.02.2019 - 13:32
Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 13.02.2019 at 18:54

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 09:38

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 11.02.2019 at 09:27

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 08:58

Most scenario players are god damn awful, i would take their advice with a grain of salt


I'd rather take advice from people who actually played the map a lot than from someone who has played the map 2 times in the last year... or 7 times in the last 4 years xaxaxa


We could play right now and the better player should be determined by winning 2 out of 3 games.

You can pick Russia and I'll pick Prussia. If the game is perfectly balanced as u say -then u won't mind me picking Prussia all 3 times.

You say i hardly have ever played the map in the past 4 years - that is true.

So if i win at least one of the 3 games how will that look on you given that you played it almost everyday?



Still waiting for our duel....


You are making it sound as if i am hiding or something - I am really easy to get in touch with and usually make my presence known.
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14.02.2019 - 13:36
Ecrit par Tundy, 14.02.2019 at 13:32

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 13.02.2019 at 18:54

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 09:38

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 11.02.2019 at 09:27

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 08:58

Most scenario players are god damn awful, i would take their advice with a grain of salt


I'd rather take advice from people who actually played the map a lot than from someone who has played the map 2 times in the last year... or 7 times in the last 4 years xaxaxa


We could play right now and the better player should be determined by winning 2 out of 3 games.

You can pick Russia and I'll pick Prussia. If the game is perfectly balanced as u say -then u won't mind me picking Prussia all 3 times.

You say i hardly have ever played the map in the past 4 years - that is true.

So if i win at least one of the 3 games how will that look on you given that you played it almost everyday?



Still waiting for our duel....


You are making it sound as if i am hiding or something - I am really easy to get in touch with and usually make my presence known.


It is because u didnt respond...
Also i am online tonight, if u can we can do our matches tonight.
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14.02.2019 - 13:43
Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 14.02.2019 at 13:36

Ecrit par Tundy, 14.02.2019 at 13:32

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 13.02.2019 at 18:54

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 09:38

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 11.02.2019 at 09:27

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 08:58

Most scenario players are god damn awful, i would take their advice with a grain of salt


I'd rather take advice from people who actually played the map a lot than from someone who has played the map 2 times in the last year... or 7 times in the last 4 years xaxaxa


We could play right now and the better player should be determined by winning 2 out of 3 games.

You can pick Russia and I'll pick Prussia. If the game is perfectly balanced as u say -then u won't mind me picking Prussia all 3 times.

You say i hardly have ever played the map in the past 4 years - that is true.

So if i win at least one of the 3 games how will that look on you given that you played it almost everyday?



Still waiting for our duel....


You are making it sound as if i am hiding or something - I am really easy to get in touch with and usually make my presence known.


It is because u didnt respond...
Also i am online tonight, if u can we can do our matches tonight.


5 hours from now I will be online
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14.02.2019 - 13:45
Ecrit par Tundy, 14.02.2019 at 13:43

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 14.02.2019 at 13:36

Ecrit par Tundy, 14.02.2019 at 13:32

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 13.02.2019 at 18:54

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 09:38

Ecrit par ITSGG1122, 11.02.2019 at 09:27

Ecrit par Tundy, 11.02.2019 at 08:58

Most scenario players are god damn awful, i would take their advice with a grain of salt


I'd rather take advice from people who actually played the map a lot than from someone who has played the map 2 times in the last year... or 7 times in the last 4 years xaxaxa


We could play right now and the better player should be determined by winning 2 out of 3 games.

You can pick Russia and I'll pick Prussia. If the game is perfectly balanced as u say -then u won't mind me picking Prussia all 3 times.

You say i hardly have ever played the map in the past 4 years - that is true.

So if i win at least one of the 3 games how will that look on you given that you played it almost everyday?



Still waiting for our duel....


You are making it sound as if i am hiding or something - I am really easy to get in touch with and usually make my presence known.


It is because u didnt respond...
Also i am online tonight, if u can we can do our matches tonight.


5 hours from now I will be online



Hmm thats too late for me. How about this saturday?
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14.02.2019 - 20:03
Ecrit par Sultan of Swing, 10.02.2019 at 18:32

Ecrit par Permamuted, 10.02.2019 at 18:30

Ecrit par bubartem, 10.02.2019 at 18:05

Saying cp is stronger than entente must be some kind of prank


My personal favourite so far.

Ecrit par Guest, 10.02.2019 at 17:27

Another thing to consider is that CP can rush France and win, prove me wrong. I won many games with WG with that only.


Entente is indeed stronger, but what njab says is right. WG can spam quite a bit of attacking units early. I've seen many an IF shred right through french trenches

Do it vs PD fra and uk HA spam to retake if capped
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