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Posté par Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

29.09.2016 - 11:55
Ecrit par Darth., 29.09.2016 at 11:52

You guys had no right to just hold up the game for so long just to max out your incomes. That's just plain and pure faggotry

Definitely agree. But, it hasn't been unreasonable as seeing this is a special situation... life or death for us, you guys have and obvious advantage.
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29.09.2016 - 11:56
Had to go about my life today as well
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29.09.2016 - 11:59
Ecrit par Google, 29.09.2016 at 11:55

Ecrit par Darth., 29.09.2016 at 11:52

You guys had no right to just hold up the game for so long just to max out your incomes. That's just plain and pure faggotry

Definitely agree. But, it hasn't been unreasonable as seeing this is a special situation... life or death for us, you guys have and obvious advantage.

LOL you tard it's life or death for us too. As Senate you have the advantage in number of military actions you can take etc etc. And you're cheating on top of that. Your deaths are going to be painful
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29.09.2016 - 12:02
I have come to a conclusion. The Senate is a mess of degenerate, murdering, traitorous, backstabbing, cheating fuckbags with absolutely no sense of honour or concern for Rome's well-being.. Exactly why we launched this war of Roman liberation. Your actions have merely reinforced our purpose, and steeled our resolve.
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29.09.2016 - 12:56
Did Zenith lose 1 talent? or did we suffer neurotic breakdown yesterday when I set up our treasury this turn?

Edit: Got 40 for joining 3 from income, I must have lost my mind had it in spreadsheet as 44
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29.09.2016 - 13:27
 JF.
Ecrit par MrArmy987, 29.09.2016 at 12:56

Did Zenith lose 1 talent? or did we suffer neurotic breakdown yesterday when I set up our treasury this turn?

Edit: Got 40 for joining 3 from income, I must have lost my mind had it in spreadsheet as 44


He did have 44
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29.09.2016 - 14:27
Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Publius Numertorius (JF)

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome)

Praetor Vote (optional due to low population)
2)Nay

Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) to govern Asia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Marcus Antonius (El Tundero) to govern Further Spain? (winner may reject)
2) Nay

Sextus Varius (Meester) to govern Africa? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Lars Pedius (Zenith) to govern Narbonese Gaul? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) to govern Cilicia? (winner may reject)
2) Nay

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) to govern Sicily? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Levying of Forces
1) Raise 18 Fleets

Force Deployments
2)Nay

Tunder is guilty.
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29.09.2016 - 14:28
==Turn 21: Phase 2 has begun==
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29.09.2016 - 14:33
Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Publius Numertorius (JF) & ?

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome)

Praetor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) to govern Asia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Marcus Antonius (El Tundero) to govern Further Spain? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Sextus Varius (Meester) to govern Africa? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Lars Pedius (Zenith) to govern Narbonese Gaul? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) to govern Cilicia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) to govern Sicily? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Levying of Forces
1) Raise 18 Fleets

Force Deployments
1)24 Fleets to roman civil war, all armies and 1 fleet to slave revolt

Trial of Marcus Antonius

Innocent

Concession to zenith
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29.09.2016 - 14:37
Ecrit par Tundy, 29.09.2016 at 14:35

Zenith didn't donate his coin to Rome, or such I am told. Why is he getting concessions?

Why are our forces going to be used to hit sicily? You are putting all your eggs in 1 basket.

I did donate to Rome. I changed my mind.

Ecrit par Zenith, 28.09.2016 at 21:55

I have received word that Caspiel Rex Secundus has my daughter. To protect her from harm I have decided to..."
Remove my support and money from the Senate.
Switch to neutral.
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29.09.2016 - 14:38
Ecrit par Tundy, 29.09.2016 at 14:35

Zenith didn't donate his coin to Rome, or such I am told. Why is he getting concessions?

He ended up giving all to Rome.
Ecrit par Tundy, 29.09.2016 at 14:35

Why are our forces going to be used to hit sicily? You are putting all your eggs in 1 basket.

We need Sicily
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29.09.2016 - 14:43
I'm pretty sure I got all our decisions correct, except for Governors, threw some of you around. Also if you're copying GC's votes, it is Safari for Sicily, not zeph
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29.09.2016 - 14:49
Ecrit par Aetius, 29.09.2016 at 14:28

==Turn 21: Phase 2 has begun==


My money did go to Rome correct? then why do I still have wealth?
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29.09.2016 - 14:50
Ecrit par Zenith, 29.09.2016 at 14:49


My money did go to Rome correct? then why do I still have wealth?


It won't change until next phase 1
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29.09.2016 - 14:50
Ecrit par Zenith, 29.09.2016 at 14:49


My money did go to Rome correct? then why do I still have wealth?

You did check out text dump of last turn. Money is updated after combat phase. Updating every phase would drive me insane
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29.09.2016 - 14:52
Ecrit par Aetius, 29.09.2016 at 14:50

Ecrit par Zenith, 29.09.2016 at 14:49


My money did go to Rome correct? then why do I still have wealth?

You did check out text dump of last turn. Money is updated after combat phase. Updating every phase would drive me insane

Sorry, just checking. Tunder didnt think I had sent money to rome, i was making sure.
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29.09.2016 - 15:31
Consul: 2
Censor: 1
Praetor: 2 (I can't be both praetor and governor)
Asia: 1
Africa: 1
Narbonese Gaul: 1
Cilicia: 1
Sicily: 1
Levying: 2 (wtf whose idea was it to make 18 fucking fleets)
Force Deployment: 1
Trial: 1
Tax: Titus Labienus
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29.09.2016 - 15:34
Ecrit par Darth., 29.09.2016 at 15:33

Ecrit par Zephyrusu, 29.09.2016 at 15:31

Levying: 2 (wtf whose idea was it to make 18 fucking fleets)

It's so Mr Army can extort shekels from his shipbuilding concession. What an amazing Consul you guys have chose.


Or was group decision we made in the group chat, not sure which though. I am a pretty greedy money grabbing guy though, proved that this game. and Zeph read your messages I sent you 10 hours ago
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29.09.2016 - 15:36
Ecrit par MrArmy987, 29.09.2016 at 15:34

I am a pretty greedy money grabbing guy

Ty for the confession
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29.09.2016 - 15:37
Ecrit par MrArmy987, 29.09.2016 at 15:34

Ecrit par Darth., 29.09.2016 at 15:33

Ecrit par Zephyrusu, 29.09.2016 at 15:31

Levying: 2 (wtf whose idea was it to make 18 fucking fleets)

It's so Mr Army can extort shekels from his shipbuilding concession. What an amazing Consul you guys have chose.


Or was group decision we made in the group chat, not sure which though. I am a pretty greedy money grabbing guy though, proved that this game. and Zeph read your messages I sent you 10 hours ago

Except they can choose to keep their fleet in port and not fucking engage us.
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29.09.2016 - 15:37
Ecrit par Darth., 29.09.2016 at 15:36

Ecrit par MrArmy987, 29.09.2016 at 15:34

I am a pretty greedy money grabbing guy

Ty for the confession


At least I'm an honest greedy money grabbing guy
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29.09.2016 - 15:41
Ecrit par Zephyrusu, 29.09.2016 at 15:37

Except they can choose to keep their fleet in port and not fucking engage us.

Lol we are not cowards
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29.09.2016 - 15:42
Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Publius Numertorius (JF) & ?

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome)

Praetor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) to govern Asia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Marcus Antonius (El Tundero) to govern Further Spain? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Sextus Varius (Meester) to govern Africa? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Lars Pedius (Zenith) to govern Narbonese Gaul? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) to govern Cilicia? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu) to govern Sicily? (winner may reject)
1)Aye

Levying of Forces
1) Raise 18 Fleets

Force Deployments
1)24 Fleets to roman civil war, all armies and 1 fleet to slave revolt

Trial of Marcus Antonius

Innocent

Concession to zenith
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29.09.2016 - 15:45
Ecrit par Darth., 29.09.2016 at 15:41

Ecrit par Zephyrusu, 29.09.2016 at 15:37

Except they can choose to keep their fleet in port and not fucking engage us.

Lol we are not cowards

Lol Pyrrhus told me you'd do it so gg nice hypocrisy
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29.09.2016 - 15:46
Ecrit par Zephyrusu, 29.09.2016 at 15:45

Lol Pyrrhus told me you'd do it so gg nice hypocrisy

Lol wut?
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29.09.2016 - 16:12
Okay so I ruined game with my oh so ever sound plan because I didn't realize they can just leave their fleets in port and not engage an attacking fleet. I told JF after we planned this last night that even if we failed it would be as faction, but I devised the plan.
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29.09.2016 - 16:18
Ecrit par MrArmy987, 29.09.2016 at 16:12

Okay so I ruined game with my oh so ever sound plan because I didn't realize they can just leave their fleets in port and not engage an attacking fleet. I told JF after we planned this last night that even if we failed it would be as faction, but I devised the plan.

They can just leave all their fleets at bay? Crap.... Army... how didn't you know this?
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29.09.2016 - 16:20
Ecrit par Google, 29.09.2016 at 16:18

Ecrit par MrArmy987, 29.09.2016 at 16:12

Okay so I ruined game with my oh so ever sound plan because I didn't realize they can just leave their fleets in port and not engage an attacking fleet. I told JF after we planned this last night that even if we failed it would be as faction, but I devised the plan.

They can just leave all their fleets at bay? Crap.... Army... how didn't you know this?


I don't know, like I said, just complete fuck up after 21 turns of the game
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29.09.2016 - 16:27
Lol guys don't blame Army. You can't put all this shit on him to plan. You guys are equally to blame for not being around to correct him/being the ones who approved a faulty plan.
But such is expected from Potestatem and it's successor...Optimates
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29.09.2016 - 16:57
Ecrit par Tundy, 29.09.2016 at 16:34

Ecrit par MrArmy987, 29.09.2016 at 16:12

Okay so I ruined game with my oh so ever sound plan because I didn't realize they can just leave their fleets in port and not engage an attacking fleet. I told JF after we planned this last night that even if we failed it would be as faction, but I devised the plan.


Which is why i asked for the legions to be dispersed as garrisons so we can merge at Rome when they refuse to engage....


I remember you asking for 1 legion in Hispania Asia Africa and somewhere else, don't remember it being for that reason, don't remember where you sent it though
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