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Should we have cw playoffs this season?

Yes
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No
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I'm too lazy (option for Sascha only)
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Total des votes: 21
24.11.2024 - 15:54
Game has been pretty active and we still have a week left in the season to decide the top 4 for playoffs. I don't see why we can't do this.
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24.11.2024 - 15:57
Would be exciting
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24.11.2024 - 16:22
Seems oddly convenient for Enigma, but I agree it would be exciting
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24.11.2024 - 16:31
Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 16:22

Seems oddly convenient for Enigma, but I agree it would be exciting

I mean we can just let paradox, a dead clan now that just so happens to have 50 cws, win second place if u want.
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24.11.2024 - 17:21
Ecrit par tempest (bw fan), 24.11.2024 at 16:31

Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 16:22

Seems oddly convenient for Enigma, but I agree it would be exciting

I mean we can just let paradox, a dead clan now that just so happens to have 50 cws, win second place if u want.

That is true aswell. Paradox shouldn't be able to win a trophy. But Goths is dead aswell, and ec and illy don't have the 50 cws, so it gets down to a fight between bd and djibouti? lol
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24.11.2024 - 17:23
Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 17:21

That is true aswell. Paradox shouldn't be able to win a trophy. But Goths is dead aswell, and ec and illy don't have the 50 cws, so it gets down to a fight between bd and djibouti? lol

I'm sure we can have an exception.
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24.11.2024 - 17:27
Ecrit par tempest (bw fan), 24.11.2024 at 17:23

Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 17:21

That is true aswell. Paradox shouldn't be able to win a trophy. But Goths is dead aswell, and ec and illy don't have the 50 cws, so it gets down to a fight between bd and djibouti? lol

I'm sure we can have an exception.

feels unrewarding that I refounded Djibouti 1 month ago, played 140 (!!!) cws between me and my clanmates, same for BD with 125 games, and it all goes to trash due to 2 clans that basically revived less than 2 weeks before the season ends. I don't see why an exception should be made, if they reach 50 games before 1st of december sure then. But otherwise don't expect much.
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24.11.2024 - 17:31
Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 17:27

Ecrit par tempest (bw fan), 24.11.2024 at 17:23

Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 17:21

That is true aswell. Paradox shouldn't be able to win a trophy. But Goths is dead aswell, and ec and illy don't have the 50 cws, so it gets down to a fight between bd and djibouti? lol

I'm sure we can have an exception.

feels unrewarding that I refounded Djibouti 1 month ago, played 140 (!!!) cws between me and my clanmates, same for BD with 125 games, and it all goes to trash due to 2 clans that basically revived less than 2 weeks before the season ends. I don't see why an exception should be made, if they reach 50 games before 1st of december sure then. But otherwise don't expect much.

Should've gotten more elo in all those games played, and does it still feel unfair that a dead clan has 1200 elo and will get a trophy if we dont have playoffs.
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24.11.2024 - 17:33
Ecrit par tempest (bw fan), 24.11.2024 at 17:31

Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 17:27

Ecrit par tempest (bw fan), 24.11.2024 at 17:23

Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 17:21

That is true aswell. Paradox shouldn't be able to win a trophy. But Goths is dead aswell, and ec and illy don't have the 50 cws, so it gets down to a fight between bd and djibouti? lol

I'm sure we can have an exception.

feels unrewarding that I refounded Djibouti 1 month ago, played 140 (!!!) cws between me and my clanmates, same for BD with 125 games, and it all goes to trash due to 2 clans that basically revived less than 2 weeks before the season ends. I don't see why an exception should be made, if they reach 50 games before 1st of december sure then. But otherwise don't expect much.

Should've gotten more elo in all those games played, and does it still feel unfair that a dead clan has 1200 elo and will get a trophy if we dont have playoffs.

I agree that play-offs should be a thing, but after 20 games we were 2nd place with 1120 elo. they can still overperform over a sample size of 20 games, unlike over a sample size of 140
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24.11.2024 - 17:46
Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 17:33

I agree that play-offs should be a thing, but after 20 games we were 2nd place with 1120 elo. they can still overperform over a sample size of 20 games, unlike over a sample size of 140

When were u guys second place lol
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24.11.2024 - 18:08
Ecrit par tempest (bw fan), 24.11.2024 at 17:46

Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 17:33

I agree that play-offs should be a thing, but after 20 games we were 2nd place with 1120 elo. they can still overperform over a sample size of 20 games, unlike over a sample size of 140

When were u guys second place lol

bad memory https://prnt.sc/0_eMye7nWdBF
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24.11.2024 - 18:19
Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 18:08

bad memory https://prnt.sc/0_eMye7nWdBF

doesn't show u being second place, and it only proves that u guys could've been in the top 4 but threw it so its not my fault if u can't make it to playoffs.
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24.11.2024 - 18:22
 Sascha (Mod)
It's a little late to change it back to the playoffs format... If all the top 4 clans agree we can do it but I wouldn't be surprised if some just wanna sit on the trophy. Let me know...
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24.11.2024 - 18:32
Ecrit par tempest (bw fan), 24.11.2024 at 18:19

Ecrit par Palmitas, 24.11.2024 at 18:08

bad memory https://prnt.sc/0_eMye7nWdBF

doesn't show u being second place, and it only proves that u guys could've been in the top 4 but threw it so its not my fault if u can't make it to playoffs.

You are literally proving my point AJKHDNASKJDLDJSAÑLD
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24.11.2024 - 19:14
Ecrit par Sascha, 24.11.2024 at 18:22

It's a little late to change it back to the playoffs format... If all the top 4 clans agree we can do it but I wouldn't be surprised if some just wanna sit on the trophy. Let me know...

I believe top 4 clans wouldn't work to be honest, seeing Paradox is dead now since you all went your separate ways. Honestly if this is too difficult to work around the barriers, may I suggest a separate cw trophy for the play-offs? For example, should the top 3 remain the same right now, all three clans would get their respective regular trophies but then there's playoffs for a separate trophy?
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24.11.2024 - 19:20
 Sascha (Mod)
Ecrit par Dominoz, 24.11.2024 at 19:14

Ecrit par Sascha, 24.11.2024 at 18:22

It's a little late to change it back to the playoffs format... If all the top 4 clans agree we can do it but I wouldn't be surprised if some just wanna sit on the trophy. Let me know...

I believe top 4 clans wouldn't work to be honest, seeing Paradox is dead now since you all went your separate ways. Honestly if this is too difficult to work around the barriers, may I suggest a separate cw trophy for the play-offs? For example, should the top 3 remain the same right now, all three clans would get their respective regular trophies but then there's playoffs for a separate trophy?


I'm pretty sure Lelouch would go back to play them if needed
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24.11.2024 - 20:00
Ecrit par Sascha, 24.11.2024 at 19:20

Ecrit par Dominoz, 24.11.2024 at 19:14

Ecrit par Sascha, 24.11.2024 at 18:22

It's a little late to change it back to the playoffs format... If all the top 4 clans agree we can do it but I wouldn't be surprised if some just wanna sit on the trophy. Let me know...

I believe top 4 clans wouldn't work to be honest, seeing Paradox is dead now since you all went your separate ways. Honestly if this is too difficult to work around the barriers, may I suggest a separate cw trophy for the play-offs? For example, should the top 3 remain the same right now, all three clans would get their respective regular trophies but then there's playoffs for a separate trophy?


I'm pretty sure Lelouch would go back to play them if needed

I would as well and im sure there's no reason to not give paradox the second trophy if they still win the season
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25.11.2024 - 08:27
 4nic
There should be playoffs
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25.11.2024 - 18:50
 Oleg
(My personal opinion on the matter - it does not necessarily reflect the Staff or Prestige)
Just no, for three reasons:

1. We started this season with the current rules and system in place. Changing them at the end of the season is not an option. We can only discuss making changes for the next seasons. As Sascha mentioned, the only way this could happen this season without setting a precedent is if all 4 clans agree to organize playoffs. But even if the clans agreed, with Thanksgiving approaching (and American players having limited time in the coming days), I don't think it would be feasible to organize the playoffs before the next season starts.

2. We didn't have trophies for over two years because clans weren't active enough to support playoffs. Everyone complained about the lack of trophies and wanted the old system back. Now, after reintroducing the old system (this is only the second season since the change), some of you want playoffs back - this is a case of critical thinking gone wrong. Certain players seem to push for changes based solely on their clan's immediate interests, without considering the bigger picture or how similar decisions played out in the past.
Additionally, the idea of having separate trophies for the Elo season and playoffs is unnecessary.

3. It demands a greater time investment from Dave, as playoffs and trophies were manually managed by him during the few seasons when playoffs worked. Considering that Dave is currently overwhelmed with his main job and doesn't have much time for AtWar, do we really want to burden him with the hassle of managing playoffs instead of working on the game?

On the sidenote, Paradox absolutely deserves to win the trophy. They played 50 games with 80% winrate. The cw elo system gives advantage to the active clans giving +1 free seasonal elo to a clan for every cw played. If they are still in top3 even though they are disadvantaged because they were not active - good job to them. The same argument applies for goths.
Also, stop clan hopping.
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26.11.2024 - 03:56
The playoff idea was shit in first place so get rid of it for next season and let's finish this one with the shit rules since it started with it
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26.11.2024 - 17:21
Ecrit par Oleg, 25.11.2024 at 18:50

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Also, stop clan hopping.

idc about the rest, but that final statement should be put in le louvre. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. stop clan hopping. (if u care about trophies)
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27.11.2024 - 06:25
About clan hopping, u should sign in for only one clan and stick to it for the all season, rest is littérature
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