Unban Lion :)

He was always kind and is the only banned player that can justifiably be unbanned. He was kind enough to show me a ton of tricks in atwar when I was still learning, and overall, he was a great person to play scens with every time I interacted with him. I don't know the full drama other than him deleting a Discord server, but I don't think a permanent ban is justified. It's genuinely been years, and he's almost certainly the type to not be a repeat offender or toxic.

Lion is likely the only player the scenario community cares about.

PS: Don't ban me, I don't care about comp players drama, or really atwar forums in general.

Unban everyone

Agree if you want someone in exchange for Lion, i would gladly accept it. Ban me but unban Lion.

I don't know why it would be necessary, but I for one, would wholeheartedly support trading IHY for Lion.

Ecrit par Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 12:23

He was always kind and is the only banned player that can justifiably be unbanned. He was kind enough to show me a ton of tricks in atwar when I was still learning, and overall, he was a great person to play scens with every time I interacted with him. I don't know the full drama other than him deleting a Discord server, but I don't think a permanent ban is justified. It's genuinely been years, and he's almost certainly the type to not be a repeat offender or toxic.

Lion is likely the only player the scenario community cares about.

PS: Don't ban me, I don't care about comp players drama, or really atwar forums in general.

Lion apologized which I appreciated, but that's not enough. He needs to make us whole. I said he could come back if he restored the content he deleted from Discord. Of course that's impossible since there was no backup (and he should have thought about this before he did it!)

So here we are, he apologized but we still haven't been made whole. Unless he can think of some other way to compensate us for the damage he caused, he's never coming back.

I would just give up hope of ever seeing your friend Lion on here again.

Ecrit par Dave, 16.04.2025 at 14:29

Lion apologized which I appreciated, but that's not enough. He needs to make us whole. I said he could come back if he restored the content he deleted from Discord. Of course that's impossible since there was no backup (and he should have thought about this before he did it!)

So here we are, he apologized but we still haven't been made whole. Unless he can think of some other way to compensate us for the damage he caused, he's never coming back.

I would just give up hope of ever seeing your friend Lion on here again.

TRUE AMERICAN THINKING DAVE
WE SHOULD PUT 600% TARIFFS ON LION AND MAKE HIM PAY YOU TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS

Ecrit par Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 13:54

I don't know why it would be necessary, but I for one, would wholeheartedly support trading IHY for Lion.

Agree on this

Ecrit par Dave, 16.04.2025 at 14:29

Ecrit par Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 12:23

He was always kind and is the only banned player that can justifiably be unbanned. He was kind enough to show me a ton of tricks in atwar when I was still learning, and overall, he was a great person to play scens with every time I interacted with him. I don't know the full drama other than him deleting a Discord server, but I don't think a permanent ban is justified. It's genuinely been years, and he's almost certainly the type to not be a repeat offender or toxic.

Lion is likely the only player the scenario community cares about.

PS: Don't ban me, I don't care about comp players drama, or really atwar forums in general.

Lion apologized which I appreciated, but that's not enough. He needs to make us whole. I said he could come back if he restored the content he deleted from Discord. Of course that's impossible since there was no backup (and he should have thought about this before he did it!)

So here we are, he apologized but we still haven't been made whole. Unless he can think of some other way to compensate us for the damage he caused, he's never coming back.

I would just give up hope of ever seeing your friend Lion on here again.

Dave, I understand your position and the frustration over what happened, but I hope you'll reconsider. While Lion made a poor decision years ago, I believe the community is better with him than without. It's not worth dwelling indefinitely on a single, admittedly stupid mistake—especially one made so long ago. I don't know exactly what was lost on Discord, but I find it hard to believe any of the content was so vital that it warrants a permanent ban. And with all due respect, if it was truly vital, Discord might not have been the best place to store it.

I recall you mentioning a background in criminal justice buried in the forums of that other thread. Given that, I imagine you'd agree that while some actions can't be undone, that doesn't mean a person is beyond redemption. What matters is whether they're willing to make things right and contribute positively going forward. From what I've seen, Lion was one of the few who actively supported others, helped newcomers, and added real value to the community. I genuinely believe his return would have a more positive impact than the status quo.

Dave, I believe that if you do care for Atwar, a good way to have the community stay healthy is to have people like Lion be a part of it.


It might even get the more noisy people to stop spamming you to unban truly troublesome people for maybe an afternoon

Ecrit par Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 16:24

Dave, I understand your position and the frustration over what happened, but I hope you'll reconsider. While Lion made a poor decision years ago, I believe the community is better with him than without. It's not worth dwelling indefinitely on a single, admittedly stupid mistake—especially one made so long ago. I don't know exactly what was lost on Discord, but I find it hard to believe any of the content was so vital that it warrants a permanent ban. And with all due respect, if it was truly vital, Discord might not have been the best place to store it.

I recall you mentioning a background in criminal justice buried in the forums of that other thread. Given that, I imagine you'd agree that while some actions can't be undone, that doesn't mean a person is beyond redemption. What matters is whether they're willing to make things right and contribute positively going forward. From what I've seen, Lion was one of the few who actively supported others, helped newcomers, and added real value to the community. I genuinely believe his return would have a more positive impact than the status quo.

Dave, I believe that if you do care for Atwar, a good way to have the community stay healthy is to have people like Lion be a part of it.

I hear you, I do.

Ecrit par Epixepiste, 16.04.2025 at 16:24

It might even get the more noisy people to stop spamming you to unban truly troublesome people for maybe an afternoon

This though.... the more people spam me the less I want to do it. I don't want anything I do to be perceived as rewarding their bad behavior!

Unban all except liondog and waffel

Dave, I think there should be a clear and achievable goal for Lion to adhere to for him to come back. Chats get lost/deleted or forgotten all the time. If this discord group was so special then why trust others to administer it? It's not a part of AW's intellectual property or copyright, it's just a discord server. If there is material on there that was so important then it could just as easily be argued that you should have made backups too. What was so important about it anyway? Aren't there like a dozen AW servers? Let's just make a new one...