The Journey: Albania vs United Kingdom

In this video I set myself bit of a challenge, I play as Albania vs United Kingdom to help me train for my upcoming fixture against AtWar's most evil moderator... the reincarnated vril who is Sid.
Also what's up with people and abusing me when im recording? xD

Ecrit par smegma lover, 09.11.2017 at 07:31

Ah man, copyright strike.

it's okay, reuploading now. Was trying to do something interesting and use some Albanian artists but apparently they're up themselves and think they're relevant enough to copyright strike it.

Kastrioti was Kastriotis,his mother was serbian and his father greek.Another stolen hero by albanians.

Commando eagle would be proud.

Ecrit par Nations, 09.11.2017 at 09:56

Kastrioti was Kastriotis,his mother was serbian and his father greek.Another stolen hero by albanians.

Our royal family is basically German as well. Guess it's a popular theme to elect someone from a different country as your monarch

Kosovo is Slovakian

I wish this was real life

Ecrit par Nero, 09.11.2017 at 12:40

I wish this was real life

Hi I'm Nero.

Ecrit par 4nic, 09.11.2017 at 12:13

Kosovo is Slovakian

Ecrit par Guest, 09.11.2017 at 13:18

I tried hw uk ..

Tried ahh, if you had pd you would win i think.

Ecrit par Froyer, 09.11.2017 at 15:22

Ecrit par Guest, 09.11.2017 at 13:18

I tried hw uk ..

Tried ahh, if you had pd you would win i think.

yeah ik, but i didn't know he was recording .. i would've chosen pd

Its 2017 and poor greeks still trying to steal albanian heroes... such shameful. Cant recall 1 greek hero tbh... you can say leonidha, but i dont consider gays as heroes sorry.

Anyway, Gjergj Kastrioti (Skenderbeu) WAS albanian, borned and raised. His father was albanian, his grandfather was albanian. Now greeks can try and invent lies by deforming last names of others from their native language to theirs. For instance Kastrioti to Kastriotis, Cezar to Cezaris, Hannibal to Hannibalis, or any XXXX to XXXXXis. In their microscopic brain that is enough invented evidence that the person is greek.

For the rest of the world who uses their brain and is based on facts here are the facts :

Gjergj Kastrioti Skenderbeu :



Gjon Kastrioti (Father of Gjergj)




Pal Kastrioti (Grandfather of Gjergj)






TO people who really know history, its freaking funny seeing poor greeks trying to steal heroes from other countries. They never had one of their own. (i repeat gays arent considered heroes)

Nice video, only problem is that Albania is too op, ofc you would win.

Ecrit par Rivaldo, 09.11.2017 at 17:03

<3

Nice video, Thank you for sharing that!

Ecrit par Sid, 09.11.2017 at 17:54

Nice video, only problem is that Albania is too op, ofc you would win.

Someone sounds scared, I'm coming for ya boi

Ecrit par Rivaldo, 09.11.2017 at 17:03

TO people who really know history, its freaking funny seeing poor greeks trying to steal heroes from other countries. They never had one of their own. (i repeat gays arent considered heroes)

Only one Greek posted in this thread lol, paranoid/deluded much?

You are right, im pretty sure Greeks have no heroes of their own and need to "steal" "Albanian" heroes

Well the fact is Greece has a recorded history since at least 7.000 bc and Greek historians and philosophers are the single biggest contributors to history, most of what you know today are because of those gay greeks. In fact most of what is written about Albania and "Illyria", we know from Greeks and Byzantines, so the joke is on you funny character.

Anyway George Kastrioti (he signed with that name in his letters) ethnicity is heavily challenged by academic historians, his surname is greek as kastro = καστρο = castle but the early historiography, mainly by Serbs and Greeks and Italians is full of contradictions and rightly so. To understand Kastrioti and Albanian history one must actually open a book (or chrome web page) and read about the era.

There really wasnt an "Albania" as you mean it then, the area switched from Serb rule to Ottoman rule and genetically it was inhabitted by slavs with the southern area heavily intermingling with Greeks.

Kastrioti's movement was not socially or ethnically cohesive, it was just a rebellion and in fact was opposed by most "Albanians", the Venetian controlled Albanians opposed it, the Ottoman controlled Albanians opposed it and the southern Orthodox Albanians opposed it. Kastrioti's rebellion was a by the book class warfare, it had nothing to do with national identity and ethnicity, his direct enemy at first was not even the Ottoman empire per se, but the "Albanian" majority who enjoyed the privileges and the social structure the Ottomans and Venetians had imposed.

Kastrioti's early followers were mainly highland people, they were connected only by religion and class (lost power or were opressed by ottoman status quo). By religion i mean Christianity, since the whole movement was Christian, a mix of Catholics and Orthodox although the sole reason Scanderbeg was known and supported by international powers were catholic monks and clerics of mixed ethnicities.

Ethnic origin was of little significance at the time as the Orthodox aristocracy in the Balkans was so closely interrelated by marriage that it can be viewed as one group, united by its Byzantine heritage and Orthodox belief. Hungarians, Italians, Greeks, Bulgars and Serbs all worked together to fight the Ottoman empire and its supporters and it was certainly not even a shred of evidence that this was an Albanian national movement.


Epilogue:

A lot of modern scholars have published works that contradict each other when it comes to Kastrioti's ethnicity, but the generally accepted bottom line is that Kastrioti was an Epirote and a slav living in an area and era heavily influenced by the Byzantines.

Kastrioti was a tragic figure and a hero of the Balkans and Christianity. In all fairness he has nothing to do with the ultra nationalistic, muslim majority, modern day Albanian state.


In fact one of the most widely accepted academic work is by Oliver Shmitt, a highly revered professor from the university of Vienna, stating that Kastrioti was probably more Serbian and that the term "Albanian" in medieval times was a pretty abstract term thrown around for people who either spoke a specific language, lived in that specific area or generally lived on top of mountains. Its more notable how the Albanians reacted when the book was translated, bullying the Albanian (he had a phd also) translator into suicide and creating a series of events on a state level, that left the international world speechless..



Conclusion:

Its apparent that the modern day Albanian state and its highly nationalistic cognitive dissonanced muslim citizens need a hero like Kastrioti to create a national identity, a sense of historical pride due to documented achievements and claim cultural ties to the West, so i ll give you that. Nobody really cares that much and i dont really see many Greeks going out of their way to claim Kastrioti. Didnt happen with the Byzantine scholars and historians and is not happening now, its only happening in your paranoid, hate-filled brain.

I just wish you would read anything other than ultra-nationalistic, islamofascist albanian blogs so we could have more meaningful conversations about history, because it feels weird to know more about your country than you.

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 10.11.2017 at 04:54

it feels weird to know more about your country than you.

Reminds me of the time when Tito debated with Meester about the history of vietnam

Ecrit par Rivaldo, 09.11.2017 at 17:03

It's 2017 and poor Greeks still trying to steal Albanian heroes... such shameful. Cant recall 1 greek hero tbh... you can say Leonid, but I don't consider gays as heroes sorry.

Anyway, Gjergj Kastrioti (Skenderbeu) WAS Albanian, born and raised. His father was Albanian, his grandfather was Albanian. Now greeks can try and invent lies by deforming last names of others from their native language to theirs. For instance Kastrioti to Kastriotis, Cezar to Cezaris, Hannibal to Hannibal, or any XXXX to XXXXXis. In their microscopic brain that is enough invented evidence that the person is greek.

For the rest of the world who uses their brain and is based on facts here are the facts :

Gjergj Kastrioti Skenderbeu :



Gjon Kastrioti (Father of Gjergj)




Pal Kastrioti (Grandfather of Gjergj)






TO people who really know history, it's freaking funny seeing poor greeks trying to steal heroes from other countries. They never had one of their own. (i repeat gays aren't considered heroes)

Are you stupid? I would not spam anything in some productive topic about the video that helps to advertise the game, but this was just stupid....
First, I needed to fix your English, now I can answer. His name is Djuradj, Serbian name... His father's name is Jovan, and mother's name is Vojislava, his grandfather's name is Pavle(same as mine), are any of those names Albanian? No. He was even buried in Serbian orthodox monastery, just stop.

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 10.11.2017 at 04:54

because it feels weird to know more about your country than you.

It's common situation with 99% of Albanians...

Ecrit par dk97.__, 12.11.2017 at 06:00

Skanderbeg created the Albanian state and died defending it and now in 2017, we have Pavle a Serbian pretending to be women talking trash about Skanderbeg and calling him a Serbian.
Are you out of your f*** mind? Butthurt level 99
You just can't accept the fact that Albania had a hero, get used to it.

Albania has a hero...
I am Queen Elizabeth II, and Skenderbeg is partly Serbian, partly Greek, stop now with this retard commenting.

Ecrit par dk97.__, 12.11.2017 at 06:12

Ecrit par Oleg, 12.11.2017 at 06:01

Ecrit par dk97.__, 12.11.2017 at 06:00

Skanderbeg created the Albanian state and died defending it and now in 2017, we have Pavle a Serbian pretending to be women talking trash about Skanderbeg and calling him a Serbian.
Are you out of your f*** mind? Butthurt level 99
You just can't accept the fact that Albania had a hero, get used to it.

Albania has a hero...
I am Queen Elizabeth II, and Skenderbeg is partly Serbian, partly Greek, stop now with this retard commenting.

You so mad aren't you? It's common thing for you Serbians, and to be honest with you, i dont blame you.
Skanderbeg is an Albanian national hero for CENTURIES now, and who the fuck are you denying it

He was hated by people that lived in Epirus land.

Ecrit par dk97.__, 12.11.2017 at 06:00

Skanderbeg created the Albanian state and died defending i

Source? Albanian state school book doesnt count. If you actually read about him you would know he didnt create anything, he was just a very successful rebel, a great fighter and general and amazing diplomat. He couldnt unite "Albania" let alone create it, some princes joined him, most didnt. He got betrayed numerous times and he even got backstabbed by his own relatives. He didnt die defending anything as he was the attacker and he was all around the balkans organizing guerilla attacks just to hurt the Ottoman empire. Im sorry to break your bubble, its just what it is.

Ecrit par dk97.__, 12.11.2017 at 06:01

Oh and by the way there are Orthodox people in Albania as well, and guess what they are not Greeks or Serbs..they are Albanians.
Next time you talk shit make sure you get your facts right.

Nobody said a percentage of Albanians are not Christian. I said muslim majority which is factually correct so you must be mistaken or didnt understand what you read.

Citer:

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@khal, honestly dude im tired. Tired of having 4 years fight about the same thing over and over again. I wouldnt get tired if i would be arguing with people to whom you give facts and they change their mind, but im tired because im arguing with rocks and walls. I literally gave you wikipedia facts which you refuse to believe, while you on your reply gave me 0 facts at all. All you typed was your own personal opinoin and interes. And even those 7 idiots who upvoted you, did that just because they dislike me. I mean who would upvote someone arguing without facts agasinst someone who has facts?!!!!
Same story over and over again for 4 years. Skenderbeu was never greek nor serbian. skenderbeu,his father, his grandfather were albanians 100% and i showed you the proof. facts dont care about your feelings or your nationalism.

Are you stupid? I would not spam anything in some productive topic about the video that helps to advertise the game, but this was just stupid....
First, I needed to fix your English, now I can answer. His name is Djuradj, Serbian name... His father's name is Jovan, and mother's name is Vojislava, his grandfather's name is Pavle(same as mine), are any of those names Albanian? No. He was even buried in Serbian orthodox monastery, just stop.

You know whats the funny part out of all these? We got this little dog pavle, who tries to learn and copy us grown up fights , and tries to apply it against me. Did you even read his reply? "sorry for me to reply you, first i had to fix your english" Can you even believe that came from pavle?? I can and its making me laugh hard. He still keeps quoting my comments with COMPLETELY IRRELAVANT STUPIDNESS comments that propably not even he understands them. For example "SKENDERBEU WAS PART SERB PART GREEK....NOW STOP" how does this make sense in a normal person's logic? To me it sounded like "I HEARD SKENDERBEU WAS SERBIAN BUT I WILL KISS GREEK ASS IN THIS THREAD SO GREEK COMMENTERS CAN SUPPORT ME PLEASE". Honestly lol .

What about this other one :"SKENDERBEU WAS HATED BY PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN EPIRUS LAND". Dude did your braincells joined a wierd cult and commited a huge suicide when you were writting this ? Epirus Do you even know the timeline of epirus and skenderbeu? Do you even know what timeline is? Even if what you say existed in this dimension and this world, who the fuck cares if that would be true? who cares if he was hated by "people" who lived in epirus??? Sultan hated skenderbeu, so what? Youre such a dead brain kid man honestly, literally,please, go get help.
Its 2017 and pavle still fights against facts and truth. THats the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Society rejects have higher chances of becoming insane people like pavle, and THATS FACT mr.pavle .

I even provide FACTS of skenderbeu's father name and grandfather name, and this guy QUOTE THE FACTS and changes them how he wills And in the end, yes he died in albania, but they sent him back to a serbia so he can be buried in a orthodox monastery.... im disapointed, i thought your mental disease would stop years ago but now i see it has advanced so much i highly doubt it will ever be cured, and im not saying this because you and me are not cool, i honestly truly believe you have a mental disease and i dont even feel bad that you have to spend your life with that

Ecrit par dk97.__, 13.11.2017 at 05:55

Keep your shitty opinion in Thaliand..you know NOTHING

Great argument, you really got me there. How will i ever recover.

Well, history taught us that Skanderbeg stood for everything modern Albanians stand against. If he saw the turn Albania took, becoming muslim, allying with his greatest enemy, Turkey and becoming a breeding ground for mindless nationalism, corruption, criminality and oppression of free speech and expression, he would roll on his grave.

You can have Skanderbeg as a national hero, who cares. But you certainly dont deserve him.

Ok first of all whenever he wrote he used the greek language, he would speak greek and great historians of that time had acknowledged him as a greek.He was famous for the numbers of bulgarians and ''albanians'' he had killed.
I can bring more information more detailed with sources cause a friend of mine couldn't stand of all the albanians here and our own history books saying he's albanian, so he made an essay and many researches, gathered information from legit sources and managed to get 300+ pages of reasons why Kastriotis was greek.
Now if you really want me to go and translate all those 300 pages I will, just to prove to you and the other 20 that will read it that whatever they hear from the many it's not always the right one.

I like how I accidentally start flamewars xD this reminds me of the Albania eu4 video i shared

It's always awkward trying to talk about nation-states prior to the late 19th century because in Medieval times people's loyalty was to their city, kingdom, religion, or language. I think it's fair to say Skanderbeg was Albanian insofar as he was born in a part of what is today Albania and died defending that part. But it's also certain that the story of this historical person was made into something of a founding myth when Albos finally got independence and needed a founding myth. At the same time Skanderbeg's strong identification with Christianity was watered down so as not to encourage religious divisions. As Khal suggested, Skanderbeg spent the last 20 years of his life defending Christendom against Muslim Turks, not defending a secular Albania from a secular Turkey, which would be an anachronism to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_Skanderbeg

I guess I will need to get those papers.