Ukraine v Russia

Nuke it all, we fucked the earth with our stupidity.

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 01.03.2014 at 15:29

If we talk about politics

said the 12 year old kike

Ecrit par Skanderbeg, 01.03.2014 at 13:07

Ecrit par Guest, 01.03.2014 at 12:56

Pan-Slavism insisted on drilling apart the Austro-Hunarian throne from the very beginning. Was it not Russia who insisted upon annexing Rumania, giving Macedonia to Bulgaria, and stealing land from the Austrians to gift to the Servs? Then, when Wilhelm II and Nicholas II attempted to make peace, was it not Nicholas who betrayed Wilhelm? Was it not the insistence of the Allied Entente to dismantle German lands for their own benefit since the moderation of said lands by Bismarck 30 years beforehand? the Austro-Hungarian and German empires were allied to the very end, putting beside their minor differences. Servia, and the rest of the Slavic nations, insisted upon shadow wars against the German Machine, which, to this day, still stands as a better alternative to unified Slavic nations, as said Slavs wanted. The Germans had no choice but to fight, when all of their hopes of peace were scratched away by the opposition. Even Italy, their pro forma Ally, bugged out for more power, devaluing honor amongst itself. The scars of this war have been mended, whichever way you look at it, though, as the only bastions of civilization left in Europe happen to be in those countries which lost the Great War.

Pan-slavism wouldnt be ''invented'' if Germany and Austria were normal states. Instead, they choose to oppress nations they ruled. Slavs arent dutch or danish to be ruled and oppressed you know. We fight back. We do not stop until we liberate our people of tyranical chains. I already told you, you cannot enter slavic lands with sword and survive. Come in peace and you are welcome to come and stay. Germany and Austria oppressed slavic lands and people, it was just a matter of time when liberation wars would start. But Germany and Austria were more greedy, they wanted more. So they started WW1 and lost.

I already showed to you how Austro-Hungary was preparing to give equal rights to it's minorities, yet the Servs killed the man who was trying to help them. How did the Germans oppress anyone, when they owned nothing but their rightful clay?

NATO > Russia

I mean really. Russia did try to call Obamas bluff when Obama said "There will be a costly consequence" Russia responds by sending 15k troops to Crimea. They are going against Ukraines Sovereignty, that is a international law break right there. We will see how much Russia will be begging for forgiveness when NATO has 1million troops at there doorstep.

This is so funny for me Ukraine is fucked i dont know how people there allow to former boxer to lead them
what is next in 2014 year Mike Tyson for USA president im sure waffel will never vote for him heheheh.americans once make this mistake
when vote for dumbass Ronald Reagan to be their president.
Question is what good think one boxer can make. ukraine people to have better life

Ukraine now need smart leader sameone smart like Angela Merkel to lead them ,not dumbass boxer like klicko who dont know nothing

Ecrit par avatar, 01.03.2014 at 18:35

This is so funny for me Ukraine is fucked i dont know how people there allow to former boxer to lead them
what is next in 2014 year Mike Tyson for USA president im sure waffel will never vote for him heheheh.americans once make this mistake
when vote for dumbass Ronald Reagan to be their president.
Question is what good think one boxer can make. ukraine people to have better life

Ukraine now need smart leader sameone smart like Angela Merkel to lead them ,not dumbass boxer like klicko who dont know nothing

>Angela Merkel
>Smart


Pick one.

Ecrit par Guest, 01.03.2014 at 18:39

>Angela Merkel
>Smart


Pick one.

Said the 14 year old insecure teenager and basement dweller about the physical chemist doctorate who is leading a country of 80 million people.

Ecrit par avatar, 01.03.2014 at 18:35

Ukraine now need smart leader sameone smart like Angela Merkel to lead them ,not dumbass boxer like klicko who dont know nothing

Klitschko and his whole party are bankrolled by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation, which also helped him to establish his party. He was politically trained in Thuringia and Berlin. This is the closest Ukraine will ever get to a leader reminiscent of Angela Merkel.

Ecrit par learster, 01.03.2014 at 18:49

Ecrit par Guest, 01.03.2014 at 18:39

>Angela Merkel
>Smart


Pick one.

Said the 14 year old insecure teenager and basement dweller about the physical chemist doctorate who is leading a country of 80 million people.

17*
Secure*
Young Adult*

Also: I spend more time outside socializing than inside. Angela Merkel's a cunt m80.

Ecrit par learster, 01.03.2014 at 18:52

Ecrit par avatar, 01.03.2014 at 18:35

Ukraine now need smart leader sameone smart like Angela Merkel to lead them ,not dumbass boxer like klicko who dont know nothing

Klitschko and his whole party are bankrolled by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation, which also helped him to establish his party. He was politically trained in Thuringia and Berlin. This is the closest Ukraine will ever get to a leader reminiscent of Angela Merkel.

Klitschko is boxer and because of him all that protest happand in Ukraine and many people die .thats not democracy ,one gouverment can be replace only in democratic elections not with protest and killing people.I dont blame only Klitschko , this is also Viktor Yanukovych
fault when he saw that people in ukraine protest again him he should retired from president position and declare democratic election in Ukraine,but what he do he use policeman again protestants, now situation in Ukraine is out of controll and i think this will use Putin to gain
Ukraine territory because without ukraine russia is not euroasian superpower.

we have proverb here Where two are fighting, the third wins
Klitschko and Yanukovych fighting ,the Putin wins

most funny thing i hear in news was that Putin whant to enter in historian books like person who united all slavic countries,he also plan to
add Mongolia in this new Slavic Union or United Slavic States USS

this how that country will look + Mongolia

Ecrit par Guest, 01.03.2014 at 19:04

Ecrit par learster, 01.03.2014 at 18:49

Ecrit par Guest, 01.03.2014 at 18:39

>Angela Merkel
>Smart


Pick one.

Said the 14 year old insecure teenager and basement dweller about the physical chemist doctorate who is leading a country of 80 million people.

Angela Merkel's a cunt m80.

a cunt who let the devil fuck her rotten soul in the ass and then pissed on it. i love her

Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 01.03.2014 at 20:12

Ecrit par Guest, 01.03.2014 at 19:04

Ecrit par learster, 01.03.2014 at 18:49

Ecrit par Guest, 01.03.2014 at 18:39

>Angela Merkel
>Smart


Pick one.

Said the 14 year old insecure teenager and basement dweller about the physical chemist doctorate who is leading a country of 80 million people.

Angela Merkel's a cunt m80.

a cunt who let the devil fuck her rotten soul in the ass and then pissed on it. i love her

Oy Vey!

Ecrit par learster, 01.03.2014 at 18:52

Ecrit par avatar, 01.03.2014 at 18:35

Ukraine now need smart leader sameone smart like Angela Merkel to lead them ,not dumbass boxer like klicko who dont know nothing

Klitschko and his whole party are bankrolled by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation, which also helped him to establish his party. He was politically trained in Thuringia and Berlin. This is the closest Ukraine will ever get to a leader reminiscent of Angela Merkel.

agreed with learster. Klitschko might be new but he has become better politician in the course of the past several monthes. He is quite intelligent (he does have a Ph.D).
Ukraine is blessed with very good politicians at this time.
tymoshenko probably outsmarts all the men in the politics in ukraine - she is a brilliant speaker and knows exactly how the play it right. Her stance is to sign a deal quickly with the EU and force crimea to pick russia or EU (russia is a dump compared to europe).
yatsenuk and turchinov are both newer politicians from the more average classes of society that seem to understand the people and lead a fair game.

However, as with all politicians, the test of time will only determine how good they actually are.

Ecrit par Guest, 01.03.2014 at 20:06

Ecrit par avatar, 01.03.2014 at 19:26

Ecrit par learster, 01.03.2014 at 18:52

Ecrit par avatar, 01.03.2014 at 18:35

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Glory to Slavia! o7

о7 Слава за Славија
Славе за президент на Славија

Dear comrades, For Mother Slavia.

Ecrit par x___, 01.03.2014 at 22:01

Ecrit par learster, 01.03.2014 at 18:52

Ecrit par avatar, 01.03.2014 at 18:35

Ukraine now need smart leader sameone smart like Angela Merkel to lead them ,not dumbass boxer like klicko who dont know nothing

Klitschko and his whole party are bankrolled by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation, which also helped him to establish his party. He was politically trained in Thuringia and Berlin. This is the closest Ukraine will ever get to a leader reminiscent of Angela Merkel.

agreed with learster. Klitschko might be new but he has become better politician in the course of the past several monthes. He is quite intelligent (he does have a Ph.D).
Ukraine is blessed with very good politicians at this time.
tymoshenko probably outsmarts all the men in the politics in ukraine - she is a brilliant speaker and knows exactly how the play it right. Her stance is to sign a deal quickly with the EU and force crimea to pick russia or EU (russia is a dump compared to europe).
yatsenuk and turchinov are both newer politicians from the more average classes of society that seem to understand the people and lead a fair game.

However, as with all politicians, the test of time will only determine how good they actually are.

If Ukraine joins the EU, Russia would raise gas prices. And how is Russia a dump, when they many respources?

Ecrit par Mr_Own_U, 02.03.2014 at 00:55

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Ecrit par Mr_Own_U, 01.03.2014 at 18:32

NATO > Russia

I mean really. Russia did try to call Obamas bluff when Obama said "There will be a costly consequence" Russia responds by sending 15k troops to Crimea. They are going against Ukraines Sovereignty, that is a international law break right there. We will see how much Russia will be begging for forgiveness when NATO has 1million troops at there doorstep.

Those troops are meant to stabilize Ukraine. Once everyone calms down, and is okay with everything Russia leaves.

Ecrit par Skanderbeg, 02.03.2014 at 04:39

Ecrit par Rock Lee, 01.03.2014 at 15:29

If we talk about politics, nowdays are the best days for Russia to do something in order to improve their status, we'v seen NATO got invovled in their buisness and humilated them since they colleapsed (intervation in serbia, syria, georgia..), and everyone is talking about that their economy is coleapsing, and for some reason, for hundreds of years, the leaders russia (and USSR if you want), are looking for influence in every piece of soil in the world where the waters are'nt frozen (I can think about few reasons economical, political, militarial and etc..), When Syria tested Obama's red line (and the second one, and the third..), they discovered that the west is unable to go for war, because of pressures from home, so as i said, if Russia wants to do something to improve their status, that's the right time (and ofcourse, it's only how it looks from the reported events, maybe there was something else beyond the scenes, we the simple people can never know if what we see is really what is going on).

The Ukrainian army is very qualitative considered to its economical abilities, but we don't really know who its hard and sword belong to, and I don't think they will have enough time to get enough soldiers to stop marching russing army to kiev (ofcourse the chance such an action will happen is low), especially if the russian population will suppurt them, pictures of the russian army in kiev will be status changer for them, when everyone talking about the chinese dragon claiming for the crown, people will see you have a bare who survived and threats the palace (europe).

Russia is and was always defending. Russia just want to protect russian people in Ukraine. They doesnt care for Ukraine since they got independence 1991, totally different state, so let them handle their own problems, but not at the cost of russians in east ukraine. It is really simple is that. There is no hidden secrets or actions, Russia never seek influence or power in the world. It just happened Russia beat off mongols, turks, tatars, great poland and sweden and made biggest empire ever. Since then everyone thinks Russia is agressive and attack oriented nation. Thats wrong and as long people view Russia that way, there will be Cold War.

What about China, Afghanistan (twice) and Persia?

Ecrit par avatar, 01.03.2014 at 19:26

most funny thing i hear in news was that Putin whant to enter in historian books like person who united all slavic countries,he also plan to
add Mongolia in this new Slavic Union or United Slavic States USS

I lol'd at that pipe dream. Have you been to these countries? Russia can't even keep their own backyard in line, e.g. Mongolia which is so far away from Europe and the US and yet is so far more influenced by us than Russia.
Let me tell ya, I walked the Mongolian capital city and what I saw was advertisement with German flags promising German quality, I saw whole Mongolian companies naming themselfs "German Standard" and houses labled "German" to make a better sale. I walked their supermarket which have next to no Russian goods to offer, but instead freshly imported German ones which aren't even translated to Mongolian let alone Cyrillic skript. I drank Mongolian beer with the German flag on it, acompanied by a tiny German knight and German words promising our old Purity Law for beer. Even sat in a Hitler-bar. They send their kids to Europe to get educated, one of which became a good friend of mine I went to visit there. He's a Mongolian army official and they do nothing else but steam full force towards NATO membership. So much that they are trained and advised by German and American military. They were even part of the German ISAF mission to Afghanistan, having their HQ in the German camp of Feyzabad, using German military equipment.
Their men admire not the Russian army, they admire US armed forces. They do not look to Zhukov to learn from history, but to Guderian and Heinrici. They don't watch Russian football on television, but German, British and Spanish. Their women do not dream of Moscow or St. Petersburg, they dream of Paris and Venice. Their youth does not learn Russian in school, instead I spoke German to them.

Our influence on them in economic and cultural terms is total. Politically Russia still has a say, but this changes faster than anyone would have expected, as can be seen in the Ukraine these days. Putin can flex his muscles all day long, while we in the West don't even have to commit a single soldier to the ground to to defeat all of his military might. This is the new and evolved form of cultural imperialism, for which Russia has no whatsoever answer, hence making them the default loser of this play.

Ecrit par Skanderbeg, 02.03.2014 at 05:05

Ecrit par Guest, 02.03.2014 at 04:54

What about China, Afghanistan (twice) and Persia?

Russia never fought China and Persia in the modern history. USSR ''invaded'' Afghanistan(Afghanistan was socialist and USSR's ally) but only to secure it from taliban takeover. Same what USA did 10 years later.

Oh, so you were talking about modern Russia?

Ecrit par Skanderbeg, 02.03.2014 at 05:17

Ecrit par Guest, 02.03.2014 at 05:09

Oh, so you were talking about modern Russia?

I can talk about medieval and enlightened Russia as well if you want. Countless of Polish-Russian medieval war - all started by polish invasion. Swedish - Russian wars, started by swedish. Russian-Mongol wars, started by mongols. Crimean tatar-Russian wars, started by tatar invasions. Russia beat them all and took their lands so they can never threat Russia again(Ingria and Finland from sweden, baltic, Minsk, Kiev, Warsaw from Poland, Ural and Siberia from mongols and tatars, Crimea from tatars and turks, Caucasus from turks)

From 1000 wars and invasions made on Russia, Russia maybe started 2 wars which can be blamed as ''imperialist''.

Wait, according to my books Russia invaded Sweden for access to the Baltic Sea. USSR invaded the Baltics, the Causcus, central Asia and other part of Eastern Europe.

Ecrit par Skanderbeg, 02.03.2014 at 05:13

The rest you said its true. Cultural Imperialism is the right word. Russia doesnt have the answer to that, yet Russia have the army to stop the invasion and secure Russias surviving until economy get stronger, standard of living get better and culture can be censored from the West, as Russia doesnt have the need of all that.

For the sake of the Russian people I would really hope so. I sure wish them only the best. Yet when I look at the nation-structure of Russia I see a Kleptocracy build on corruption and nepotism. The money drained down the sinkhole during the Olympic games being the best example. This makes me doubt your prediction.

Ecrit par Skanderbeg, 02.03.2014 at 04:59

Ecrit par x___, 01.03.2014 at 22:01

tymoshenko probably outsmarts all the men in the politics in ukraine - she is a brilliant speaker and knows exactly how the play it right. Her stance is to sign a deal quickly with the EU and force crimea to pick russia or EU (russia is a dump compared to europe).

Tymoshenkova ruined Ukraine. There were never more corruption and companies closure like in her time. He stole everything that worth stealing. She almost made EU puppet state out of Ukraine. While Russia offered large market and cooperation, EU is offering debt slavery, more corruption, loyalty to the West and hate towards Russia.

she didnt ruin ukraine - she knew exactly what to do with it and how to make it better economically. Her president yushenko was the one that put large pressure on businesses.
The people right now WANTED her to be president.

clearly whats going on

There is one more thing i wanna say: noone conquers Russia in the winter except for the Mongols

Who would have thought avenged sevenfold foretold this event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ffmunRjjI

HAIL TO THE KING.

Putin the Great
Hail Great Slavia
LIKE A BOSS






now lets see Obama



evry day more and more Ukraine troops move in Russia side you know why they are not paid with months

I don't know what about you, but to me it seems like he changed his mind, in light words, about taking ukraine.