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Posté par Acquiesce, 18.09.2014 - 08:13

Those of you who aren't living under a rock know that today Scotland will vote for independence from the greater United Kingdom. As of right now the outcome of the vote is up in the air. This thread is for discussing the AW competitive implications of a yes vote. I think it is fair to assume that if Scotland does vote yes and carries through with secession the default AW map and thus the Eu+ competitive map will be significantly altered as was the case with the world map and Sudan not too long ago.

The question becomes how will this affect gameplay? Will we be better off (I know some people think the UK is too powerful as compared to Germany)? Will the UK still be a popular pick (It should lose about 10% of it's reinforcements and a small part of its economy)? Will Scotland become another Ireland that can be rushed by the opponent first turn be it France or Germany? Will this ruin the UK and make Italy, Poland, or Russia a more popular pick?

Note that this is NOT a debate Scotland's independence thread. Take that to off topic. It is a discussion of what a yes vote could mean as the biggest change to the competitive map in recent memory.

Khal.eesi Illyria Messages: 4213 De: Israël	18.09.2014 - 14:40 Khal.eesi Aqui asked only 1 thing in his original post.to not make this political.But yet as usual, we see a parade of idiots talking about their geopolitical views, that no one gives a shit about. ---- Chargement... Chargement...
Goblin Stalins Martians Messages: 3290 De: Croatie	18.09.2014 - 14:46 Goblin Officially, there is no internationally recognized line between Israel and Palestine; the borders are considered to be disputed, and have been for decades. So, how the hell are Amok and Ivan suppose to draw the borders? ---- Chargement... Chargement...
YazanTheSexy V I K I N G S Messages: 738 De: Palestine	18.09.2014 - 14:46 YazanTheSexy Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 18.09.2014 at 14:40 Aqui asked only 1 thing in his original post.to not make this political.But yet as usual, we see a parade of idiots talking about their geopolitical views, that no one gives a shit about. I dont want to make it political it just ... I am feeling insuilted about how aqcui ruched to make thread for scotland before they even finish voting , while not giving a fuck about palestine and totally ignoring it (+ Amok being a faq about it) but this is my last comment on this thing i wont add any comments after .. No need to lock it ---- Chargement... Chargement...
Waffel Syndicate Messages: 6422 De: Djibouti	18.09.2014 - 14:46 Waffel Its bullshit to make a thread even a CHANGE in this game because of scotland, what about Palestine? This country does excist, it has war, it has been plenty of times/years in the news. And yet there is no country called Palestine in this game? But because a western country is about to change and blabla. Lets make it a bigg deal! nice. ---- Ecrit par Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44 Waffel for mod 2015 Chargement... Chargement...
YazanTheSexy V I K I N G S Messages: 738 De: Palestine	18.09.2014 - 14:48 YazanTheSexy Ecrit par Goblin, 18.09.2014 at 14:46 Officially, there is no internationally recognized line between Israel and Palestine; the borders are considered to be disputed, and have been for decades. So, how the hell are Amok and Ivan suppose to draw the borders? But they manged to drow isreal border with us?? .. -_-? ---- Chargement... Chargement...
Htin Blue-Dragons Messages: 1983 De: USA	18.09.2014 - 14:52 Htin Ecrit par Waffel, 18.09.2014 at 14:46 Its bullshit to make a thread even a CHANGE in this game because of scotland, what about Palestine? This country does excist, it has war, it has been plenty of times/years in the news. And yet there is no country called Palestine in this game? But because a western country is about to change and blabla. Lets make it a bigg deal! nice. So who own palestine? the jewish government? ---- Hi Chargement... Chargement...
Mr_Own_U evoL Messages: 2710 De: USA	18.09.2014 - 14:58 Mr_Own_U Ecrit par chill, 18.09.2014 at 14:09 Ecrit par Mr_Own_U, 18.09.2014 at 13:59 Ecrit par Goblin, 18.09.2014 at 13:14 Map of regions in europe that are seeking independence Well ...this would be a shock for competitive games South France NC!!! lol main land france no ports...... Sm op ---- It's not the end. Chargement... Chargement...
AlBoZzZ Aristokrats Messages: 3631 De: Albanie	18.09.2014 - 14:59 AlBoZzZ Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 18.09.2014 at 14:40 Aqui asked only 1 thing in his original post.to not make this political.But yet as usual, we see a parade of idiots talking about their geopolitical views, that no one gives a shit about. They also should update the Greece income making it less then albania xD lets see how much you will start crtimg like a little b...baby ---- Chargement... Chargement...
Tundy Salt Industries Messages: 5885	18.09.2014 - 15:13 Tundy Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 18.09.2014 at 14:59 Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 18.09.2014 at 14:40 Aqui asked only 1 thing in his original post.to not make this political.But yet as usual, we see a parade of idiots talking about their geopolitical views, that no one gives a shit about. They also should update the Greece income making it less then albania xD lets see how much you will start crtimg like a little b...baby Kosovo and palestine are not really officially recognized countries. I mean, kosovo is not even recognized by 2/3 of the world. And palestinia is recognized as a entity, but not as a country as it doesn't have established borders. Chargement... Chargement...
AlBoZzZ Aristokrats Messages: 3631 De: Albanie	18.09.2014 - 15:16 AlBoZzZ Ecrit par Tundy, 18.09.2014 at 15:13 Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 18.09.2014 at 14:59 Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 18.09.2014 at 14:40 Aqui asked only 1 thing in his original post.to not make this political.But yet as usual, we see a parade of idiots talking about their geopolitical views, that no one gives a shit about. They also should update the Greece income making it less then albania xD lets see how much you will start crtimg like a little b...baby Kosovo and palestine are not really officially recognized countries. I mean, kosovo is not even recognized by 2/3 of the world. And palestinia is recognized as a entity, but not as a country as it doesn't have established borders. It doesn't matter. Kosovo is a FREE COUNTRY WITH INDEPENDENCE. It doesnt matter who recognized it or not. And pakistan does not recognize israel as a country. Should we remove israel too? ---- Chargement... Chargement...
Goblin Stalins Martians Messages: 3290 De: Croatie	18.09.2014 - 15:19 Goblin Ecrit par YazanTheSexy, 18.09.2014 at 14:48 Ecrit par Goblin, 18.09.2014 at 14:46 Officially, there is no internationally recognized line between Israel and Palestine; the borders are considered to be disputed, and have been for decades. So, how the hell are Amok and Ivan suppose to draw the borders? But they manged to drow isreal border with us?? .. -_-? IKR ...pls delete israel. ---- Chargement... Chargement...
Acquiesce (Mod) Illyria Messages: 3792	18.09.2014 - 15:45 Acquiesce (Mod) Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 18.09.2014 at 13:52 And another thing, you are a mod so maintain your attitude as one. I dont wanna see you writing childish comments anymore. Capish? Thanks The devs have already made their position on Kosovo clear. It is contestable and thus unrelated to this thread (England and Scotland will almost certainly recognize the result of the vote as will the rest of the world). More importantly defending the legitimacy of the forums from trolls like you and mou is not childish, it is my job. So I will nicely ask you a final time to leave your opinions on Kosovo or Gaza or anything unrelated to the topic of this thread at the door. Thank you ---- The church is near, but the road is icy... the bar is far away, but I will walk carefully... Chargement... Chargement...
Khal.eesi Illyria Messages: 4213 De: Israël	18.09.2014 - 15:54 Khal.eesi Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 18.09.2014 at 15:16 Ecrit par Tundy, 18.09.2014 at 15:13 Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 18.09.2014 at 14:59 Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 18.09.2014 at 14:40 Aqui asked only 1 thing in his original post.to not make this political.But yet as usual, we see a parade of idiots talking about their geopolitical views, that no one gives a shit about. They also should update the Greece income making it less then albania xD lets see how much you will start crtimg like a little b...baby Kosovo and palestine are not really officially recognized countries. I mean, kosovo is not even recognized by 2/3 of the world. And palestinia is recognized as a entity, but not as a country as it doesn't have established borders. It doesn't matter. Kosovo is a FREE COUNTRY WITH INDEPENDENCE. It doesnt matter who recognized it or not. And pakistan does not recognize israel as a country. Should we remove israel too? First of all no one cares about your psychological problems.Its obvious that your deep hate and jealusy for other countries, stem from your problematic childhood.I dont know what went wrong in the way your were brought up, but surely its your parents fault and not your own.Still nobody cares.I am very happy where i live. Secondly, i dont know how someone can be that ignorant and idiot at the same time.So Ivan should change the map for Kosovo, just because you say so?And it doesnt matter who recognizes it?I declare my neighborhood Khal-land then and ask amok to implement it, ok? By the way, fyi, this is the map of the countries that recognize Kosovo.Hardly the half of the world.And if you look closely, what all these countries have in common?What do they share with each other?ehm..they are American allies, offcourse.There you go, Usa bought a convenience store in the balkans.Its called Kosovo. P.S. i ask for forgiveness for giving away and adding to the off-topic discussion in this thread.The thread is clearly for the changes in the at-war game and not in real life.It wont happen again. ---- Chargement... Chargement...
Bosnjak Amko Ce compte a été effacé	18.09.2014 - 16:05 Bosnjak Amko Ce compte a été effacé Ecrit par YazanTheSexy, 18.09.2014 at 14:25 Ecrit par AlBoZzZ, 18.09.2014 at 14:15 Ecrit par YazanTheSexy, 18.09.2014 at 14:14 Why the fuck you will add scotland but not fucking palestine THIS IS FUCKING GAY RECIST SHIT , Because unfortunately palestine is still occupied and it's not an independent country yet It an independent country by UN !! Observing state in UN and the 194 state in the world!! Well agreed with smashing on them.. he has right..palestine is still occupied and there is same situation as one in crimea or idk where else too..But Kosovo is indepedent nation and we should see their borders on this game... Chargement... Chargement...
Bosnjak Amko Ce compte a été effacé	18.09.2014 - 16:08 Bosnjak Amko Ce compte a été effacé Ecrit par Goblin, 18.09.2014 at 15:19 Ecrit par YazanTheSexy, 18.09.2014 at 14:48 Ecrit par Goblin, 18.09.2014 at 14:46 Officially, there is no internationally recognized line between Israel and Palestine; the borders are considered to be disputed, and have been for decades. So, how the hell are Amok and Ivan suppose to draw the borders? But they manged to drow isreal border with us?? .. -_-? IKR ...pls delete israel. Agreed..just delete israel and wait till conflict end there or make palestine's borders too Chargement... Chargement...
1GodofWar1 ENIGMA Messages: 2779 De: USA	18.09.2014 - 16:30 1GodofWar1 Ecrit par Khal.eesi, 18.09.2014 at 14:40 Aqui asked only 1 thing in his original post.to not make this political.But yet as usual, we see a parade of idiots talking about their geopolitical views, that no one gives a shit about. agreed and guys fyi we dont give a shit about any other country/state/recognized/unrecognized this is a debate about scotland so fuck off and post ur hate/troll posts elsewere. btw sm uk will be a game changer. ---- Chargement... Chargement...
Acquiesce (Mod) Illyria Messages: 3792	18.09.2014 - 16:36 Acquiesce (Mod) Thread locked, too bad seeing as there were some interesting and relevant comments in the beginning ---- The church is near, but the road is icy... the bar is far away, but I will walk carefully... Chargement... Chargement...

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